discussion Women on this site?

[Loliholic]

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why is it, that the rules of the internet apply on porn sides the most? But i do wonder the same some time.

Because of you (=guys in general, not you personally)
Look around, read around. You all define this- and similar places as male focused domains, many of you talk about women like we are nothing but meat to fulfill your desires, you glorify rape, prostitution, slavery and so on. The games have mostly male protagonists and again, brainless meat for male desires. Female protaginist games are mostly slut/whore sims without the choice to play a game. Same goes for the common porn sites. Hell even sites with ONLY lesbian porn are filled with horny guys who dont care about anything but their own cumshots and the desire to write about it.
There are many women on the internet, there are also women on sites like this and on real porn sites, but except for the few girls that are into hetero gutter talk and the few girls who want to raise the niveau to create a halfway female-friendly level, they tend to shut up. Women need to show an misandrist personality if they dont want their pn box spammed by horny guys. Thank goth thats not hard for me to do, since i dont have the slightest interest in guys and never forget to mention it.
However, in this context i dont count, just like you guys i'm here for the girls...i just hate noncon (except for mind control, it may be forced facing reality, but since they want it after controling them its not really noncon anymore in games, call it my personal joker, just like some guys tend to use alc or drugs rl, but without victims since its a game fantasy) and i dont get anything from male protagonists except for the story. Sure, not all guys are assholes, some of you are also not into forced stuff, but considering how big the rape, prostitution and corruption fan bases are, you dont provide many reasons to not be disgusted by you and manners, or at least non-discriminating phrasing are not really strong points of horny guys. Well, i'm not reallly a good example for the other side since i dont get tired to display my hate for dicks and their attachments, but i never claimed to be a good example in the fist place ^^

To make it short, if guys would spew less misogynic poison around, they would see many more women in places they dont expect them. Women are everywhere, they just prefer to stay hidden because they dont feel tolerated or even welcomed in predefined male spaces...or are gisgusted by the pn's they provoke by outing themselves as women. You just need to keep the truth in mind: Everyone wants sex, everyone masturbates and everyone looks for content that speed up masturbation. Thats the one universal fact all genders have in common, even when outdated minds still spread nonsense like "females dont watch porn".
We are all humans and we all want our orgasms, but life is not a game, (most) girls dont just fuck everything for the sake of an orgasm. So we want content too. Content that dont defines us just as meat. And in my case, lesbian content because dicks are disgusting ^^

 

[palpi]

Because of you (=guys in general, not you personally)
Look around, read around. You all define this- and similar places as male focused domains, many of you talk about women like we are nothing but meat to fulfill your desires, you glorify rape, prostitution, slavery and so on. The games have mostly male protagonists and again, brainless meat for male desires. Female protaginist games are mostly slut/whore sims without the choice to play a game. Same goes for the common porn sites. Hell even sites with ONLY lesbian porn are filled with horny guys who dont care about anything but their own cumshots and the desire to write about it.
There are many women on the internet, there are also women on sites like this and on real porn sites, but except for the few girls that are into hetero gutter talk and the few girls who want to raise the niveau to create a halfway female-friendly level, they tend to shut up. Women need to show an misandrist personality if they dont want their pn box spammed by horny guys. Thank goth thats not hard for me to do, since i dont have the slightest interest in guys and never forget to mention it.
However, in this context i dont count, just like you guys i'm here for the girls...i just hate noncon (except for mind control, it may be forced facing reality, but since they want it after controling them its not really noncon anymore in games, call it my personal joker, just like some guys tend to use alc or drugs rl, but without victims since its a game fantasy) and i dont get anything from male protagonists except for the story. Sure, not all guys are assholes, some of you are also not into forced stuff, but considering how big the rape, prostitution and corruption fan bases are, you dont provide many reasons to not be disgusted by you and manners, or at least non-discriminating phrasing are not really strong points of horny guys. Well, i'm not reallly a good example for the other side since i dont get tired to display my hate for dicks and their attachments, but i never claimed to be a good example in the fist place ^^

To make it short, if guys would spew less misogynic poison around, they would see many more women in places they dont expect them. Women are everywhere, they just prefer to stay hidden because they dont feel tolerated or even welcomed in predefined male spaces...or are gisgusted by the pn's they provoke by outing themselves as women. You just need to keep the truth in mind: Everyone wants sex, everyone masturbates and everyone looks for content that speed up masturbation. Thats the one universal fact all genders have in common, even when outdated minds still spread nonsense like "females dont watch porn".
We are all humans and we all want our orgasms, but life is not a game, (most) girls dont just fuck everything for the sake of an orgasm. So we want content too. Content that dont defines us just as meat. And in my case, lesbian content because dicks are disgusting ^^

Women watch porn, they just don't say they do, because men in general struggle to hear a girl say she's into anything sexual and not descend into begging that girl to do that sexual stuff to them. And because men in general struggle with that, women in general know better than to express themselves openly about that sort of stuff, because the amount of unsolicited attention that would warrant is huge, and the trouble of dealing with that is not worth for the mere expression of them liking something of sexual nature. It's a viscious cycle: men can't keep their dick in their pants, so women feel uncomfortable talking about sexuality, so men see less women being openly sexual on the internet (and the only way they do is through porn stars and sex workers, that lean into the "male gaze" tendencies and thus reinforce it), so they have even more of a struggle to keep their dick in their pants.

And to be fair, I'm no saint, people close to me in my life have repeatedly said that I would do so much better in life if I kept my dick in my pants, but that's an issue I plan on slowly working on within the next couple of years. In the meantime, I just keep my dick visible to those who can tolerate me having my dick out of my pants.

P.S.: By "having a dick out of the pants" I mean being overly sexual towards other people, possibly to the point of sexually harrassing and stalking people online (and, god forbid, offline); treating women that express their sexuality in any kind of way, no matter how small, as objects that might give you sex if you convince them hard enough; and in general treating women as something whose only reason for existence is providing sex to men (possibly like yourself).

 

[fllyn]

We are all humans and we all want our orgasms

Ain't that the truth. If only people could be less shitty. Might need to make that my new signature quote.

 

[Impulse 9]

Women definitely watch porn. I know some good looking girls who do. I can only imagine how much more common it'll be with below average looking girls

 

[Loliholic]

The whole "women dont watch porn" myth is from pre-digital times. Times society forced women in 3 roles, either you were housewife and only for your husband, or you were single living like a nun or seeking a husband to get your houswife upgrade, or you were a slut/whore/golddigger. Houswifes dont watch porn, they have their husbands, sluts and whores dont need porn, they just fuck around and the nuns would ruin their reputation and chances to find a proper husband if they would be caught buying/renting porn.

Then society grew up a little, women got the right to enjoy sex as well, it wasnt a stigma anymore to watch porn, but it was still embaressing to buy/rent porn since they were raised differently same as the staff in the shops. Just before the statistics could change and proof women would watch just as much porn if it were not embaressing anymore to get it, the internet became the global AND anonymous source of porn.

Up to today noone can say how many viewers are male or female.
Considering the fact society grew up a little more in the meantime (we are not only allowed to enjoy sex today, we are also allowed to decide when and who we want to have sex with, even good sex with other women isnt forbidden anymore - at least in countries that had at some point a few working brains in their gov) and the younger generations upbringing were not focused on repression and marriage, even more women watch porn.

Another dead myth is women and computers/internet, aside from it being even more outdated, there is another little logic bug in that lie, today most handys have internet as well and the young generations grow up with one of them glued to their hands. Its save to say only people who cant even afford food dont watch porn...and even some of them still have some leftovers

 

[bd37873]

A question I ask myself every day!
I know there are a lot of women with strange fetishes and such, even have a friend who has a knack for cheating on their boyfriends and, if possible, in front of them, literally NTR the woman haha.
But here comes the question in this humble community of ours where there are many people with dubious fetishes... Do we have women here too?..
It's a question that never leaves my mind, I like to know women's opinions about our little corner of paradise.

im new here but the amount of meme potential is staggering not to mention puns

 

[MattShizzle]

I think these days just about everyone is on the internet, except the very young (like single digit age or less), very old (80+, and plenty of them are) and the Amish. Oh and the extreme wacko countries like Iran, N Korea, etc.

 

[Ciri]

I think there is no girl in this thread. People who check this section only curiosity

 

[MrJay]

There are even several openly female adult VN devs, and anyone who actually listens to women knows they're basically just as freaky as guys are, they just don't have any reason to make themselves known to any of us because a large portion of people here sadly can't be trusted to not act like raging incels. Sorry, but we all know it's true. It doesn't even matter that most of us probably would be decently cool about it, the few who aren't ruins it for everyone. Just like in the real world.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

There are even several openly female adult VN devs, and anyone who actually listens to women knows they're basically just as freaky as guys are, they just don't have any reason to make themselves known to any of us because a large portion of people here sadly can't be trusted to not act like raging incels. Sorry, but we all know it's true. It doesn't even matter that most of us probably would be decently cool about it, the few who aren't ruins it for everyone. Just like in the real world.

We don't accept harassments nor bullies here. This, we make sure of. The only time both parties get in trouble is if they both break the rules. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So y'all are free to be who you want to be, just don't try to mimic staff members as if you're a person of authority and MOST CERTAINLY don't mimic a child as this will get you banned fast as this is an 18+ site.

 

[MattShizzle]

Wasn't one of those "rules of he internet" that there are no girls on the internet? Silly and obviously false, but due to guys pretending to be women online for whatever reason.

 

[luciferstar6969]

Are there girls who actually play these games and like them ? I have always wondered cause i have never met such girls at all haha

 

[itisjj]

Probably, yeah, the sole reason you don't see woman advertising such facts probably boils down to the risk of being harassed for being woman in the first place, and the fact no one seeks to be associated to these types of games (Which I personally find to be a shame as sectioning off a whole part of art because it tackles a topic you don't like is very not cool.).

 

[azobo12]

i found out about these games by a girl named PuritySin she still posting on youtube

 

[User_139447]

Yes. I'm on a couple of Discords where more than a few of the players are women.
One of the more prominent voices is probably Annie of

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. RJ Rhodes, the dev of Come Home, is a woman. Nine, the dev of Mythos is an afab enby, there's more diversity in the player base than many think. Probably less visible due to the usual harrassment from the incel manbaby crowd. That's also why many of the female devs use pseudonyms. Which is a pity, but an unfortunate reality.

 

[WLMS]

Wasn't one of those "rules of he internet" that there are no girls on the internet? Silly and obviously false, but due to guys pretending to be women online for whatever reason.

It is, rule n°37.
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[MattShizzle]

Ah, yes. How could I forget "tits or GTFO?"

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[Tempura]

Another owner of XX genes checking in (I like to think the extra X makes me extra spicy)! I'm reaching the part of my life where I'm no longer young enough for most men to bother harassing. So I'm free to be more open about it.

I've been a game dev for about a decade, and a regular dev before that. I was always very much into computers/tech, as soon as I could get my hands on one. Read/watched porn since my late teens (before that I used to write/draw my own, which eventually led me to gamedev), and I know many many other women that did the same. Although in the early 00s we would have email/group chats in uni to share content, as most regular porn was designed purely for men.

Women are definitely into porn. Just not the same porn. I always explain it this way... imagine, as a straight guy, every porn video you watch is filmed from the woman's POV (so showing the man flat on his back, his expressions, his genitals) with very few shots of the woman's body. Everything is focused on the guy, with maybe some side angles or close up genital shots of them both if you're lucky. And most of the time the guy is really hot, but the woman isn't someone you would consider attractive at all. And the man is making really over the top noises/expressions that you know wouldn't be natural in real life and doing things that you know wouldn't be enjoyable or even comfortable. Would you want to watch that? And that's just the tamer porn where they are treated like a human.

If you're into male sub/bondage porn, then maybe you'd be okay with it. But for everyone else who is just looking for 'regular' type sex scenes, it would get annoying fast not being able to find anything to watch. Especially when you're younger and just venturing into the whole world of 'porn' and looking for the vanilla content to start out with. It would quickly put you off a lot of sites. Which I think is why many women are on more fetish-related sites and/or literary porn instead. I've made a lot of female friends on male gay porn sites, for example (something I'm really into). But until very recently I never used female sounding names, as it wasn't worth the aggro it pulled.

When I make games now, I have both male and female characters, so everyone can enjoy it (I don't want to deprive men, just want to add content for women too). But sorry, I'll not be showing bobs or vegana of my own before anyone asks!

 

[smokeybear420g]

Another owner of XX genes checking in (I like to think the extra X makes me extra spicy)! I'm reaching the part of my life where I'm no longer young enough for most men to bother harassing. So I'm free to be more open about it.

I've been a game dev for about a decade, and a regular dev before that. I was always very much into computers/tech, as soon as I could get my hands on one. Read/watched porn since my late teens (before that I used to write/draw my own, which eventually led me to gamedev), and I know many many other women that did the same. Although in the early 00s we would have email/group chats in uni to share content, as most regular porn was designed purely for men.

Women are definitely into porn. Just not the same porn. I always explain it this way... imagine, as a straight guy, every porn video you watch is filmed from the woman's POV (so showing the man flat on his back, his expressions, his genitals) with very few shots of the woman's body. Everything is focused on the guy, with maybe some side angles or close up genital shots of them both if you're lucky. And most of the time the guy is really hot, but the woman isn't someone you would consider attractive at all. And the man is making really over the top noises/expressions that you know wouldn't be natural in real life and doing things that you know wouldn't be enjoyable or even comfortable. Would you want to watch that? And that's just the tamer porn where they are treated like a human.

If you're into male sub/bondage porn, then maybe you'd be okay with it. But for everyone else who is just looking for 'regular' type sex scenes, it would get annoying fast not being able to find anything to watch. Especially when you're younger and just venturing into the whole world of 'porn' and looking for the vanilla content to start out with. It would quickly put you off a lot of sites. Which I think is why many women are on more fetish-related sites and/or literary porn instead. I've made a lot of female friends on male gay porn sites, for example (something I'm really into). But until very recently I never used female sounding names, as it wasn't worth the aggro it pulled.

When I make games now, I have both male and female characters, so everyone can enjoy it (I don't want to deprive men, just want to add content for women too). But sorry, I'll not be showing bobs or vegana of my own before anyone asks!

what games have you made, id be curious to check them out. Have you ever though about making VR stories with VAM? I like those.

 

[DreamingWizard]

Porn created for a female audience seems to be significantly different than the ones that are made for the male audience. It's mostly written stuff, like books or fanfiction, though even i enjoy text based porn games, but I don't think they have much female consumers. Women also seem to be a significant part of people who ERP with AIs, look up the most popular characters and you'll see. But there are also some more visual things geared towards women, just look at Love and Deepspace (though I'm not sure if this game has actual pornographic content)