discussion Why do we like the kinks we like? Help uncover possible connections by taking an anonymous survey

[azathoth]

took the survey, but I'm pretty certain most of my kinks are trauma related.

 

[johny2222]

Done. This stuff interests me, I'd love to see the results

 

[Sarya]

Fellow deviants (and non-deviants who wandered in by chance....):

Why do we like what we like? What motivates our sexual preferences? Is it childhood experiences? Is it random?

Or is there an evolutionary basis for our kinks? How does homosexuality persist over evolutionary time? It's present in most of our great ape relatives and it's being discovered in more and more mammalian species. What selection pressures lead to it being preserved? And what about NTR? Why do so many of us hate it? Loli? or MILF? More evolutionary selection pressures at play?

I am trying to test my theory about what evolutionary selection pressures lead to various kinks. My hypothesis suggests that some kinks are going to be positively correlated with some others and negatively correlated with different kinks. And another group of kinks will similarly be positively and negatively correlated with other kinks and factors.

Help out a fellow pervert (that's perVECT!) and fill out the linked anonymous survey. The survey should take 10 to 15 minutes and I will be posting more of my theory for criticism and debate once I get enough survey responses.

This thread and survey has been approved and checked out by the moderators.

Hope to see the number of responses climb quickly (though please only take the survey one time. Multiple entries will (obviously) skew the results).

Please post here with any questions or comments. I think this is a topic that has the potential to generate a lot of discussion and debate, all of it friendly and collaborative, I'm sure.

Here is the link:

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Thanks

Doctorpinch


Mod Note: This survey has been vetted and approved by LC Staff. - Silrog22

Your survey is interesting, but i think it should ask both sex and gender. In sites like here, i see lot of people who are gender deviant. Kinks can't be explain just by biology. Sure, natural hormones linked to biological sex play a role, but gender play one too. In my opinion, there is lot of things linked to psychology and sociology at work here and those factors may be even more important on why we have such kinks (plenty of fetish are trauma relative for example).

 

[doctorpinch]

took the survey, but I'm pretty certain most of my kinks are trauma related.

Thanks! And I'm sure that most of our kinks are somehow related to environmental effects, but I'm interested in exploring whether they might also have some heritable component. It's clearer and clearer that 99% of heritable behavior is triggered to a greater or lesser extent by environmental triggers.

Done. This stuff interests me, I'd love to see the results

See below and above. (Full survey results are attached above with 100 survey responses.

Your survey is interesting, but i think it should ask both sex and gender. In sites like here, i see lot of people who are gender deviant. Kinks can't be explain just by biology. Sure, natural hormones linked to biological sex play a role, but gender play one too. In my opinion, there is lot of things linked to psychology and sociology at work here and those factors may be even more important on why we have such kinks (plenty of fetish are trauma relative for example).

It's an interesting idea, and I'm sure that asking about gender would reveal some interesting connections with various kinks. However, the reason I didn't ask is because it would be very difficult (if not impossible) to disentangle cause and effect in those cases. For example, let's say someone who is born male but identifies as female is very turned on by the trans kink (not surprisingly). But is the appreciation for the trans kink caused by being trans? Or (much more likely) are they both a function of some other event/issue (environmental or heritable). So that's why I was staying away from that particular area.

 

[User_111574]

The results of the study are really very interesting and make you think about a lot of things. However, imho, the statistical sample is small. But it was interesting to familiarize myself with the sexual inclinations of a relatively large group of people. The popularity of some fetishes surprised me very much. Although, as a popular saying in my country says, “everyone jerks off the way he wants to”.

 

[doctorpinch]

And for your further entertainment and edification )) Here are the kinks listed in order of highest average scores to lowest average scores. I've also included a standard deviation calculation. Higher standard deviation numbers indicate greater spread and lower standard deviation numbers indicate greater bunching. One way to think of this is to see standard deviation greater than one as indicating broad spread and numbers below 1 indicating bunching.

The best example of this is rape and interracial. They both get an average rating of 3.1 (rape - 3.173, interracial - 3.163). So both are quite close to an "indifferent" average. However, rape has a StdDev of 1.39 and interracial has a StdDev of 0.77. This suggests that rape is divisive (some people love it, some people hate it) and interracial is basically boring.

I think these results are fascinating! I hope you all do as well.

(I'm not sure if these results will post. They're in .xls (Excel) and .ods (Goggle Sheets) formats. If this doesn't work, I'll convert to .pdf but then no one will be able to re-sort.

Sorry - the .xls and .ods did not upload. Here's the .pdf.

 

[Sarya]

It's an interesting idea, and I'm sure that asking about gender would reveal some interesting connections with various kinks. However, the reason I didn't ask is because it would be very difficult (if not impossible) to disentangle cause and effect in those cases. For example, let's say someone who is born male but identifies as female is very turned on by the trans kink (not surprisingly). But is the appreciation for the trans kink caused by being trans? Or (much more likely) are they both a function of some other event/issue (environmental or heritable). So that's why I was staying away from that particular area.

In my own case for example, i was born a man, but i'm transfeminine. I have really fuck up kinks in games, like rape and kidnapping (even if i'm a extremely nice, kind and gentle person in real life). Question is: is it link to testo (that tend to increase impulsivity and aggressive behavior) that once were in my veins, to my education as a man (there is plenty of data about how family and school tend to educate differently boys and girls) or trauma base (i had massive school bullying as a kid)? All of this can be true. And it can be also a mix of it all.

I really like to study those questions about gender, sex, sexuality, in both humans and other animals, this is still a domain where there is so much even the best scientists don't know, it's a lot more complex than most people think.

 

[chester1530]

I will wait until nightfall, I will go into my private bunker, isolated from all interference from the outside and proof of electromagnetic waves, microscopic drones and telepaths. So, I'll take the test.

 

[LordVoos]

Aaand done.

 

[freddix]

done the survey not really sure what to do with the information though

 

[Northyz]

for some I think its about look a way that you could never do irl..

 

[Loliholic]

Since polls are all about numbers i need to state my choices belong to a lesbian context. Especially my answers for oral, bukkake, groupsex, etc. were meant to be dickfree, with dicks they are ultimate turnoffs.

 

[doctorpinch]

I will wait until nightfall, I will go into my private bunker, isolated from all interference from the outside and proof of electromagnetic waves, microscopic drones and telepaths. So, I'll take the test.

I hope the bunker is foil lined. Otherwise, you're just fooling yourself....

Aaand done.

Thank you to everyone for doing the survey. The more responses we get, the better.

done the survey not really sure what to do with the information though

Do you mean that you're not sure what use the information is going to be to me? I plan to start a blog talking about what the results might show in the context of what I understand about evolutionary biology. I'm hoping that the results will be consistent with my theories about legacy effects of female transfer/male philopatry (women move out of the natal group while men remain) and male tournament behavior ((some) men compete for alpha status and control over access to breeding females) in evolutionary history. I think the legacy of those ancestral circumstances might still have significant effect on human behavior. My first blog post is almost written, though it still needs heavy editing and cite checking. It's on how these circumstances might effect the FBOE (fraternal birth order effect) relative to being (male) gay.

for some I think its about look a way that you could never do irl..

Yes. I think this is true of most of our fantasies....

Since polls are all about numbers i need to state my choices belong to a lesbian context. Especially my answers for oral, bukkake, groupsex, etc. were meant to be dickfree, with dicks they are ultimate turnoffs.

This is interesting. Until I looked it up, I had no idea there could be purely lesbian bukkake. I honestly didn't think about this problem, though it's not just a problem in this context. There are several questions that are indeterminate this way. (For example, both humiliation and domination don't specify who's the dom and who's the sub. Some people might be rating the humiliation kink highly because they like imagining themselves as the sub rather than the dom.) I'm not sure how I'm going to untangle that, but it may just be that that particular kink can't be used for my purposes. The results are still interesting, but hard to interpret. I think the same problem is present generally for its use as a tag. If you filter for the humiliation tag, you're not really sure whether you're going to get it as the MC being humiliated or the MC humiliating others.

But I appreciate you're pointing it out here, since I hadn't even considered the lesbian angle.

 

[Loliholic]

This is interesting. Until I looked it up, I had no idea there could be purely lesbian bukkake. I honestly didn't think about this problem, though it's not just a problem in this context. There are several questions that are indeterminate this way. (For example, both humiliation and domination don't specify who's the dom and who's the sub. Some people might be rating the humiliation kink highly because they like imagining themselves as the sub rather than the dom.) I'm not sure how I'm going to untangle that, but it may just be that that particular kink can't be used for my purposes. The results are still interesting, but hard to interpret. I think the same problem is present generally for its use as a tag. If you filter for the humiliation tag, you're not really sure whether you're going to get it as the MC being humiliated or the MC humiliating others.

You may need to sort the results by core aspects.
Sexuality defines the basic angle, no lesbian would think about dicks in her answers, no gay about pussys, and heteros not about the same gender...the bisexuals are the only trap here, they might prefer eating pussys and getting a cum bukkake in a mixed gender orgy.
To untangle the humilation you just need to check the alpha/omega choice, alphas will not enjoy the sub role and omegas are less keen to humilate others.

 

[Pablouru2020]

childhood experiences for sure

 

[doctorpinch]

You may need to sort the results by core aspects.
Sexuality defines the basic angle, no lesbian would think about dicks in her answers, no gay about pussys, and heteros not about the same gender...the bisexuals are the only trap here, they might prefer eating pussys and getting a cum bukkake in a mixed gender orgy.
To untangle the humilation you just need to check the alpha/omega choice, alphas will not enjoy the sub role and omegas are less keen to humilate others.

So I think that (mostly) works for filtering by sexual preference. But I actually think there's a good chunk of alphas that actively seek the sub role and omegas the dom role. It's the forbidden fruit effect.....

 

[hubbabubba]

I dunno, I guess childhood experiences. For me the mommy kink is mostly about the affection

 

[Loliholic]

So I think that (mostly) works for filtering by sexual preference. But I actually think there's a good chunk of alphas that actively seek the sub role and omegas the dom role. It's the forbidden fruit effect.....

Strange, i dont know any alpha including myself who would ever submit or allow any form of humilation. And no meek girl ever tried to order me around, except for some officials but thats beside the context ^^
Hypocrites and switches have more average personalities and just play roles.
However, alphas are not bound to be into the dom/sub/humilation/bondage shit, but they have better chances in avoiding it than omegas ^^

 

[Dude123456]

I would like to contribute to your research by answering the survey because you are trying to better understand human sexuality. Too few research are doing that and yours could help science advance.

On the other hand, as a post-graduate student I have to point out some very obvious flaws in your methodology.

First, recruiting participants on a forum like this one implies an important bias (males who like edgy erotic stuff) and invalidate all possibilities of the results being representative of the whole population.
Second, confidentiality. I think this one is pretty obvious. When contributing to academic research, it is protected via the integrity (or possible lost of) the researcher or the institution to wich he is affiliated. To ensure this, you have to sign a form wich states i.g. that your data will only be used in regard to a certain research project and that under no circumstances could they allow you to be identified personnally. In most research it wouldn’t matter much to be identified, but on the subject of sexuality, it does. A lot. I mean some « kinks » surveyed here (incest, rape, bestiality, loli, to name a few) are not only extremely taboo but also completely criminal in many countries.
I hate to play devil’s advocate as I would very much like to read the results of your research, but I’ll pass.

In the end, I hope you really have noble intentions. Small communities such as this one are a safe haven for people to talk about things generally not accepted in our very prude societies. Too often have they collapsed under the relentless scrutiny of the authorities. I sincerely hope you will read my message and take it into consideration going forward.

 

[dirty36]

Took Survey,
I now realize, the things I am into now compared to when I was younger, (Maybe cause of these games we play),
I wish I could go back and attempt to be less shy, and try more things with a few of old girlfriends that were a bit more open than I was...