discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py [HS2] Money or Morals [Day4.5] [Ronovan]

[Nastastic]

i would say the loli boobs also but this is probaly a design choice you did so you dont have to double do scenes. between f95 and here.

Especially since "loli" is an incredibly non-specific term that can be used to describe girls anywhere between 3-17 years old.

 

[gaudard]

The game looks good but the adult female characters could be a little better (hot) like "lust village" or "milf day".
I find the Mc character disproportionate "too much muscle deforms the body"
This is not a criticism.
Thanks

 

[Silwith]

Have to say btw, even tho she doesn't even have a true scene yet: little tomboy Alex already uügraded to best girl for me xP tomboys are love :3

The game looks good but the adult female characters could be a little better (hot) like "lust village" or "milf day".
I find the Mc character disproportionate "too much muscle deforms the body"
This is not a criticism.
Thanks

Well, here we are square in "matter of taste"-territory, like, I would agree with the MC, personally wouldn't mind a bit less muscular (tho I think it is fine), but I wholeheartedly disagree with the point of "lust village" and "milfy day" Milfs looking hotter then in this game, just... BIG nope from me

 

[Deleted member 48]

Super loved your game. Looking forward to your next update. I see patron and subscribe star are no longer working for you. have you tried

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[User_23742]

Super loved your game. Looking forward to your next update. I see patron and subscribe star are no longer working for you. have you tried

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Glad you liked it!
Subcribestar is still working. It was only Patreon that decided to kick me out.

 

[cumalot]

Glad you liked it!
Subcribestar is still working. It was only Patreon that decided to kick me out.

Can confirm that. Member to your sub.star. today

 

[User_23742]

Can confirm that. Member to your sub.star. today

Thank you ?

 

[NotLooking]

Crazy how much is going on already and it's only chapter 3. So many cuties to interact with and so many teased to come soon. Looking forward to where this story leads.

 

[Satan01]

if yr Going to Do more Loli caracters can u have and Oppai Loli (Big Breast Loli) if u unsure what that is look on any Hentai page

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Another loli AVN put on hold

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Especially since "loli" is an incredibly non-specific term that can be used to describe girls anywhere between 3-17 years old.

Yeah that and incest tags really need split, and not just here or Fuck95. Lolis = 3-11 (prepubescent). 12-17 = hebes (past puberty but still generally jailbait in most places when they show up in porn doing lewd things). Incest = only counts with blood relatives that are fucking, not french kissing or something lame. Not blood relatives = stepcest, not incest. I've lost track of how much time and bandwidth I've wasted grabbing an "incest" tagged AVN only to realize it's adopted kids or whatever once I started playing it. Step relative porn is dumb, not a big deal, and a dime a dozen, akin to getting baited with a porn clip with beastiality in the title or #tag and then only getting to watch some chic hump her stuffed teddy bear.

 

[JoeTheMc84]

Especially since "loli" is an incredibly non-specific term that can be used to describe girls anywhere between 3-17 years old.

Or even 300+ years old in the classic demon-loli style story,

Loli is often used to refer to a body type because there is no petite (or similar) tag with regard to body type. Though often adult sites will have separated categories for things like big tits and big asses. I’ve always advocated for more labels and tags, and for them to be applied more often, let the dev notes and forum comments lay out the specifics… but that’s me.

 

[Silwith]

Yeah, because thats how it developed, I mean... the Girl in Novel from which the Term comes is literally 12 and would per nicest_incests opinion not even be a loli then... and the term never meant "prepubescent" girls, just "young girls" in comparison to adult women, so it could be a 16 year old just as much as a 7 year old...
If ya want a tag that makes it clearer, you gotta be more direct, dunno, do age range tags or whatever, but yeah, the whole loli term is vague enough to include pretty much everything looking young, from 300 year old little girls to 16 year old teens.

 

[WigglyWorld84]

Just saw on Itch, this game is now on-hold. motherfucker (not the dev, just a general annoyance with getting my hopes up for these projects).

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[Nicest_Incest]

Just saw on Itch, this game is now on-hold. motherfucker (not the dev, just a general annoyance with getting my hopes up for these projects).

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Yup, saw that on SS and unsubbed. Really people that waste thier time on RL jobs shouldn't bother starting an AVN unless they plan on quitting said job later as it's too unpredictable and can go from slow/easy/short to a 12/7 time sink at the drop of a hat with little warning. At least a few devs I've subbed to have went that route instead of quit their AVN. So much for more Lily scenes, as "on-hold" is a stepping stone for abandoned 90% of the time (understandable, once a project hasn't been worked on for 6+ months it's really hard to get motivated to get back into again even when more time eventually becomes available for it).

 

[User_2828]

Yup, saw that on SS and unsubbed. Really people that waste thier time on RL jobs shouldn't bother starting an AVN unless they plan on quitting said job later as it's too unpredictable and can go from slow/easy/short to a 12/7 time sink at the drop of a hat with little warning. At least a few devs I've subbed to have went that route instead of quit their AVN. So much for more Lily scenes, as "on-hold" is a stepping stone for abandoned 90% of the time (understandable, once a project hasn't been worked on for 6+ months it's really hard to get motivated to get back into again even when more time eventually becomes available for it).

Making VNs like this it too unpredictable to do as a full time thing now. A full time job offers a reliable paycheck every month. I don't blame him one bit for putting a hobby on hold for the sake of reliable livelihood.

 

[User_23742]

Yeah game's on hold for now. It's mostly because I was getting stressed out from self set expectations and time became much more limited. I'm just out of creative juice for MorM ATM, hopefully it'll come back but for now I'll explore doing some other stuff like single renders and longer animations.

 

[BadJM]

Yup, saw that on SS and unsubbed. Really people that waste thier time on RL jobs shouldn't bother starting an AVN unless they plan on quitting said job later as it's too unpredictable and can go from slow/easy/short to a 12/7 time sink at the drop of a hat with little warning. At least a few devs I've subbed to have went that route instead of quit their AVN. So much for more Lily scenes, as "on-hold" is a stepping stone for abandoned 90% of the time (understandable, once a project hasn't been worked on for 6+ months it's really hard to get motivated to get back into again even when more time eventually becomes available for it).

I think the issue is that a lot of people underestimate the amount of work that goes into making these games and for most games it takes a while until you get enough support for you to be able to do this full time.
Not saying that it was the case here but there are a lot people that think these games are easy money and when they try to do it they realize how wrong they were.
A good example of this is the game forseeable family, the dev just decided to abandon the game after just a couple of updates because he thought making AVS was an easy way of making money.

 

[jh_smut]

Why am I not surprised that lolis outvoted teens by almost 4 to 1? LOL

re loli/hebe: I've seen it broken down where hebe is 13 or 14 or so, and ehebe is 15 to 17, based on a system of development

 

[Tiur]

re loli/hebe: I've seen it broken down where hebe is 13 or 14 or so, and ehebe is 15 to 17, based on a system of development

So some of the confusion and argument over the terms 'loli', 'hebe', etc. is because they overlap (since they're based on different origins) and all of them have very blurry and overlapping edges.

The term 'loli' is completely subjective and is going to depend on the opinion of the person using it, but it usually means 'underage' of some kind (given the girl in the name's source, Lolita, was 12). But for example, the F95 tag simply defines it as 'an underdeveloped girl in sexual situations'. Here on LC, the tag is defined as 'underage or prepubescent'. There's no ages related to this term specifically, because it's got very blurry edges.

The terms 'hebe' and 'ephebe' have very specific meanings, because they're based on actual words, not the name of a novel: hebephilia and ephebephilia. Based on those, people have later used the shortened terms to refer to the children themselves: 'hebe' would therefore be defined as a pubescent child in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14, and 'ephebe' as a pubescent child in mid- to late-adolescence, typically ages 15-19. Note the 'typically' there, which means these terms also have blurry edges.