discussion Questions to Americans

[Deleted member 28264]

M. Manson does a lot of mocking at that "exceptionalism" in his song "We're from America".

 

[DirkDiggla]

Paradoxically there's far less overt and blatant racism in the Southern states than other parts of the country. I'll never say there's none to be found, but it's nowhere near what you're apparently being told/taught. I say this as someone that's lived here all my life and has been to most other Southern states.

 

[L0rdJ4ck]

Wow, that was... very interesting.
Thanks for this thread dude, some of the answers and "point of view" still confirm few things of what i think about this almost-united-states and about most of the human being living there !

But i'm french, i can afford the well-known fact that what i think will be considered like pointless or shit like that by proud people (especially when they got free guns everywhere).

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(don't get me wrong, i love all the living being. This is just that some of them are at the opposite of what evolution of life is meant to be)

 

[Rebel 357]

In regard to the "Texas having the most racists..." Texas is the second most populated state in the country. Some thirty million people inhabiting that land mass. However, there is a KKK chapter in every state so it's not a south v. north thing like it's portrayed on TV.

In southern California we had many years ago a bunch of KKK flyers dropped around the city. Though that could have been a prank, there are plenty of Mexicans that hate blacks too.

 

[Deleted member 28264]

there are plenty of Mexicans that hate blacks too.

That might have been a result of Chump's actions. I remember that before him being elected he said he'd raise a wall along the Mexican border, altough IDK how far he got with that idea. But it gives Mexicans enough reasons to hate everything American, including African-Americans.

 

[nuzzyfipples]

The sieve that is the southern US border has been an issue longer than I've been alive, far preceding Trump. That's not why.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

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Eww... Political crap. o_o Go back to porn and fuck some babes.

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I really have no business being here. Good day, folks!

 

[Deleted member 28264]

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Eww... Political crap. o_o Go back to porn and fuck some babes.

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I really have no business being here. Good day, folks!

Not everything is political here.

 

[L0rdJ4ck]

And that's the win of the rich people in the 21th: "politics" became a swear, a bad word, a feared conversation.

It is only another word for "social structure" (or, "how do we do to live well"). Since we're off porn-topics in this one, ...

 

[Deleted member 28264]

And that's the win of the rich people in the 21th: "politics" became a swear, a bad word, a feared conversation.

It is only another word for "social structure" (or, "how do we do to live well"). Since we're off porn-topics in this one, ...

In my country "politics" is a synonym of "corruption". As in people who take money under the table to do things around the law.

Btw, another American thing I've never understood - the concept of college. I mean, is it some kind of middle stage between high school and higher education? In my country, for as long as I can remember and even before I was born, the concept has always been that: 1st through 12th grade (which includes high school; starts at age 6-7), then you graduate from that at the age of 18-19 (12th grade), and after that comes the university (the higher education) which (usually) lasts 4 years, or longer, if you go for the "doctor of whatever" or "master of whatever" titles. There's an American college in my country but many of us, myself included, still don't understand how the college fits in all that.

Also, at what ages do you start and finish school in USA? There was this... I guess you could call it a "hearsay" some time ago that what we learn in 6th grade, Americans learn in 9th or 10th grade. Like, in 6th grade we learn about equations of the type "ax + b = 0" and raising to power. And the hearsay was that Americans learn these things much later than 6th grade.

 

[Tiur]

In my country "politics" is a synonym of "corruption". As in people who take money under the table to do things around the law.

Btw, another American thing I've never understood - the concept of college. I mean, is it some kind of middle stage between high school and higher education? In my country, for as long as I can remember and even before I was born, the concept has always been that: 1st through 12th grade (which includes high school; starts at age 6-7), then you graduate from that at the age of 18-19 (12th grade), and after that comes the university (the higher education) which (usually) lasts 4 years, or longer, if you go for the "doctor of whatever" or "master of whatever" titles. There's an American college in my country but many of us, myself included, still don't understand how the college fits in all that.

Also, at what ages do you start and finish school in USA? There was this... I guess you could call it a "hearsay" some time ago that what we learn in 6th grade, Americans learn in 9th or 10th grade. Like, in 6th grade we learn about equations of the type "ax + b = 0" and raising to power. And the hearsay was that Americans learn these things much later than 6th grade.

I'll be honest, almost everything you said about America here is incorrect.

While corruption exists in American politics, it's not synonymous like you're describing. There are certainly corrupt politicians, but it's not the majority, and the widespread bribery you're describing just isn't part of American culture.

College is just another word for University, both of which are the "higher education" you're talking about. While there are community colleges, which are kind of like an extra step between high school and university (higher education as you're calling it), that's still part of the university track. Someone might go to community college for 2 years, then finish out their university degree for another 2 years (4 years total for the standard higher education bachelor's degree). It's not a rule written in stone, though; some people take 5-6 years for a bachelor's because they're doing it part-time, some people cram and finish in 3 years. There's also post-graduate education, which is Masters and PhD programs, both of which are what Americans would call 'higher education' - effectively, these are the training to become a Professor.

Standard ages vary for Americans in schooling, and some places have the break points slightly different, but the usual process I recall is:
Pre-school (optional) - 3-5 years old
Kindergarten - 5-6 years old
Elementary School (a.k.a. primary school or grade school) - 6-12 years old, 1st through 6th grade
Middle School (a.k.a. junior high school) - 12-14 years old, 7th and 8th grade
High School (a.k.a. secondary school) - 14-18 years old, 9th through 12th grade
College OR University - can start at 17-18 (depending on age when finishing high school; some really smart kids can and have also skipped 12th grade to go straight into university) and lasts as long as a person wants to and can afford to keep attending, with the 4-year bachelor's degree I mentioned above being the most common.

As for education topics, there's no universal nationwide curriculum order all US schools are expected to follow (nor are there even standards most schools follow; there are a few trends, and that's about it). However, basic algebraic equations, which is the type of math you're describing, are generally part of "pre-algebra", and often show up in 7th or 8th grade, depending on the school (not 9th; that is most often full-on algebra). Exponents, which is the other type of math you're describing, are usually taught during pre-algebra or a year earlier in 6th or 7th grade. Other factors that may alter the order in which subjects are learned include the district curriculum system, specific teachers, and even the individual student. For instance, I took pre-algebra in 6th grade, and was learning full-on algebra in 7th grade as an advanced student. That said, since there is no universal curriculum, and since different subjects' education progress likely varies from country to country, that doesn't tell you anything about any other subject.

 

[Nastastic]

In my country "politics" is a synonym of "corruption". As in people who take money under the table to do things around the law.

Btw, another American thing I've never understood - the concept of college. I mean, is it some kind of middle stage between high school and higher education? In my country, for as long as I can remember and even before I was born, the concept has always been that: 1st through 12th grade (which includes high school; starts at age 6-7), then you graduate from that at the age of 18-19 (12th grade), and after that comes the university (the higher education) which (usually) lasts 4 years, or longer, if you go for the "doctor of whatever" or "master of whatever" titles. There's an American college in my country but many of us, myself included, still don't understand how the college fits in all that.

Also, at what ages do you start and finish school in USA? There was this... I guess you could call it a "hearsay" some time ago that what we learn in 6th grade, Americans learn in 9th or 10th grade. Like, in 6th grade we learn about equations of the type "ax + b = 0" and raising to power. And the hearsay was that Americans learn these things much later than 6th grade.

College and university are interchangeable, to a degree. Americans will refer to people who are "college-age" or "going to college" rather then using the word "university" in those contexts. I believe at one time "colleges" only offered two-year degrees (associate's degrees) and four-year degrees (bachelor's degrees) and universities offered postgraduate degrees as well (master's degrees and doctorates) but that distinction has blurred over the years. In addition, local institutions called "community colleges" exist, and usually offer only associate's degrees...although some will provide bachelor's degrees in certain subjects in conjunction with a four-year college or university. Universities are often (but not always) larger and/or older and/or more prestigious and/or more expensive than colleges. It's really kind of a clusterfuck.

And I don't know how they do it in Bulgaria, but here in the U.S. higher education costs a pretty penny. Rather than invest in the youth to increase America's prospects for the future, our system encourages banks to milk them as debt cows for decades for short-term profits, because that's what America is all about (the land of the fee and the home of the wage slave). A four-year degree can cost anywhere from $50-150 thousand depending on where you go. Looking to be a medical doctor? You're looking at $250 thousand and up.

And everything else I was going to type, Tiur beat me to it.

 

[Deleted member 28264]

I'll be honest, almost everything you said about America here is incorrect

What part of "my country" you didn't understand? Unless you think I'm American?

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99% of all the politicians in my country since 1989 till present day were and are corrupt. They only care about Russia's interests, not the interests of the Bulgarian people. The most corrupt political party is shortly known as BSP (Bulgarian Socialist Party), they're literally Russian puppets.

As for the school thing - as I said it was a hearsay spread by people who used to live in the States but never got to go to school there cuz they're adults.

 

[Deleted member 28264]

And I don't know how they do it in Bulgaria, but here in the U.S. higher education costs a pretty penny. Rather than invest in the youth to increase America's prospects for the future, our system encourages banks to milk them as debt cows for decades for short-term profits, because that's what America is all about (the land of the fee and the home of the wage slave). A four-year degree can cost anywhere from $50-150 thousand depending on where you go. Looking to be a medical doctor? You're looking at $250 thousand and up.

14 years ago when I was in the university the highest price per semester (that I know of) was 1200 BGN which is a little more than $600 (1.80 BGN per dollar) by today's currency prices. But a few years ago the inflation came and nowadays it's probably $1200 per semester. That's the highest price for Bulgarian university, but I've heard the American college rip you off with at least 3 times that per semester (usually 3 months). 8 years education to be Dr. House with average price $1000 = $16,000.

 

[JoeTheMc84]

That might have been a result of Chump's actions. I remember that before him being elected he said he'd raise a wall along the Mexican border, altough IDK how far he got with that idea. But it gives Mexicans enough reasons to hate everything American, including African-Americans.

Since I was young back in the 80s Mexican's have been the most racist against black people, it's basically a joke at this point in most border states.

And the "border wall," was a talking point. A lot of it was just increasing security. Fencings is part of it, but drones, patrol agents, infrared fencing and other measures were added more than physical walls. Build the wall was just a slogan. And it's crazy to me that America is sending billions to defend Ukraine's border (and not even very well) while at the same time cutting spending on defending our own border. Meanwhile around 400,000 America's have or will have died from fentanyl being smuggled into the country and used to cut other drugs by the end of the year, let alone weapons and human trafficking that happens at our border. The drug cartels from Mexico actually come into Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico and kill ranchers and kidnap people. They are more well-armed than the Mexica military in some areas and even had a shootout, I think a few months ago, where the cartels took down a Mexica army helicopter and fought them off. They have tunnels under the border they can even drive armored cars through, it's crazy.

 

[jh_smut]

2 things I’d add to an interesting discussion (which has not gotten TOO heated, despite the topic):

1. The notion that the Civil War was fought over state’s rights was shown to be a fraud by the “Fugitive Slave Act”. (For our non-American friends, this allowedbounty hunters from the South to go to other states to bring fugitive slaves back to the whipping post.)

2. re metric vs “Imperial” measures, I recall a while back there was a joint project(NASA and the European Space Agency, I believe) wher one group was using one measure and the other the other. I think that the mission nearly ended in disaster, but they were able to spot the error and correct.

 

[Tiur]

What part of "my country" you didn't understand? Unless you think I'm American?

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99% of all the politicians in my country since 1989 till present day were and are corrupt. They only care about Russia's interests, not the interests of the Bulgarian people. The most corrupt political party is shortly known as BSP (Bulgarian Socialist Party), they're literally Russian puppets.

I did understand, and I didn't mean you were wrong about the corruption in your country. Was just saying something more general about American politicians. I really did mean only the things you'd said about America (which, as you said, were hearsay) were wrong. It's just the usual issue with text not conveying tone.

 

[Kizma Buudi]

I would argue that the majority of politicians in the US are corrupt, but they find legal ways in which to grift like buying stocks of companies that are going to go up due to legislation. The salaries they make shouldn't make them all millionaires within a couple of years.

 

[Deleted member 28264]

I did understand, and I didn't mean you were wrong about the corruption in your country. Was just saying something more general about American politicians. I really did mean only the things you'd said about America (which, as you said, were hearsay) were wrong. It's just the usual issue with text not conveying tone.

That's why I use emoticons and also add "(sarcasm)" or "(facepalm)" wherever these apply, when the emoticons aren't enough.

 

[Deleted member 28264]

Does anyone know if there's a TV show about LAFD only? I mean, you know there are two separate TV shows about Chicago PD and Chicago FD. So I'm looking for a similar thing, just that it would be a separate LAFD only TV show. I know of "9-1-1" which I'm currently watching but it's a unifying show about police, LAFD and the dispatch center, not too much focus on either one. Once I'm done with its season 6, I'll have nothing else to watch. I did search through IMDB but I couldn't find anything that is about the FD only.
Well, I have a lot of TV shows burned on discs, so I do have stuff to watch, I just want something new that I've never seen before. And I've seen all the 6 seasons of "SWAT", waiting for its 7th season, so you could say I've exhausted all LA options I could find. I was also told there was an NYFD TV show but I can't find that on IMDB either, probably it's not named what I thought it would be.