What do you wish was in avns more?

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So I'm curious what you all wish could be added into games more that seem to be lacking. For me, it's the lack of variety in love interests I'm not a fan of. Almost every game I play seems to have the same style/same look and it sometimes feels so bland.
 
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obviously lolies, theres plenty of everything else
 
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Good plot and interesting characters. Sex is secondary for me.
 
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Sex scenes. There are WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too many blue ball ones. Also, ones without any weird shit.
 
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Good plot and interesting characters. Sex is secondary for me.
Why not just read a book? I can't imagine looking to AVNs primarily for the plot. I understand the appeal of the visual aspect, but still. What would you say is an AVN with good writing? Not necessarily good plot, but good writing?
 

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Good writing? You're kidding. At best, it's fanfic level, not literature. But after all, we've all been exposed to cheap, third-rate literature at various times. For example, most science fiction writers of the “golden age” did not rise above the standard for those times level of tabloid reading. Nevertheless, Asimov, Heinlein, Sprague de Camp, etc. are still published today.
I have invented a term for good (on a general level) AVNs - “sensual urban fantasy”.
And imagine, I read books, and I spend more time with them than with AVN (about 90% vs. 10% ratio). Also, I'm not really a fan of KN/VN. I prefer games, and there's very little game component in VN.
 
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WAAAAAAAY more lolis as one already stated :cool:..Also more dominance/rough sex(concent of course,no force or violence bull:poop:)..
 
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Lolis are love, lolis are life. But a personal wish is that I want more femboy characters that I can dominate.
 
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An ending.

The number of 'abandoned' avns is pretty staggering.
 
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Plausibility?

Aside from a story that doesn't toss belief out the window in the first 30 seconds, I like family incest, pregnancy, light BDSM, and having your choices actually effect the story.
 
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Gonna be honest, I can't imagine most choices as being more than just fluff. AVN dev seems very time consuming and typically made of small (1-2 man) teams, adding variation in the way people expect/demand would balloon dev times so much that there'd be even more abandoned games than there already are. I personally don't mind the illusion of choice as I think most devs would get lost/overwhelmed by just adding more and more "real" choices.
 

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Good writing? You're kidding. At best, it's fanfic level, not literature. But after all, we've all been exposed to cheap, third-rate literature at various times. For example, most science fiction writers of the “golden age” did not rise above the standard for those times level of tabloid reading. Nevertheless, Asimov, Heinlein, Sprague de Camp, etc. are still published today.
I have invented a term for good (on a general level) AVNs - “sensual urban fantasy”.
And imagine, I read books, and I spend more time with them than with AVN (about 90% vs. 10% ratio). Also, I'm not really a fan of KN/VN. I prefer games, and there's very little game component in VN.
I've always assumed sci-fi/fantasy of the past wasn't well regarded due to snobby critics/high-minded "intellectuals" not considering such fiction worthy of the label "literature", much like The Beatles had some see them as a simplistic pop group.
 

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More anal!
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Definitely some form of believable story. I'm not one to skip through for the sex, so I read all of the content, and I typically know in the first 10-15 minutes if it is going to be good or not.
 

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I've always assumed sci-fi/fantasy of the past wasn't well regarded due to snobby critics/high-minded "intellectuals" not considering such fiction worthy of the label "literature", much like The Beatles had some see them as a simplistic pop group.
I'm not a critic, just a casual listener, but I'm closer to King Crimson and Pink Floyd than The Beatles. Asimov's original Foundation trilogy - have you read it? Is it literature? Wells is literature. Le Guin, Zelazny, Ellison, Ballard, Moorcock (of later period) are much closer to literature, in my humble opinion.
Though as many people as there are opinions, I only expressed my personal point of view. If someone likes pulp fiction (I'm not talking about the wonderful Tarantino movie) - you're welcome. Perhaps someone to this day enjoys reading Burroughs' cycles about Tarzan and the Martian queens.
 
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I'm not a critic, just a casual listener, but I'm closer to King Crimson and Pink Floyd than The Beatles. Asimov's original Foundation trilogy - have you read it? Is it literature? Wells is literature. Le Guin, Zelazny, Ellison, Ballard, Moorcock (of later period) are much closer to literature, in my humble opinion.
Though as many people as there are opinions, I only expressed my personal point of view. If someone likes pulp fiction (I'm not talking about the wonderful Tarantino movie) - you're welcome. Perhaps someone to this day enjoys reading Burroughs' cycles about Tarzan and the Martian queens.
You're mistaking me, I don't look down on sci-fi/fantasy, just pointing out that speculative fiction in general has always been thought of as second rate. I'm not personally a fan of fanfiction but I know of authors today that cut their teeth in that arena and hold fanfiction up as valuable and worthy of attention. Just because it's not published or widely known doesn't make it worth scoffing at.
 
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