Random philosophical thoughts

[blublu62y]

The thing bout humans and ours language is that we are aware of ourselves, like if the voice in your head is yourself, who is the one that is listening? All the time i remember shit like that, and i'm always like thinking almost obsessionally about the world, who i am and if i am good enough, the universe and all, do you also have thoughts like that? If so could you share a little about your thoughts and point of view?

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(theoretical image of you thinking about this shit)

 

[Fall12Dr]

I wonder what happens when you die, stay like a ghost or go to another place, could it be that we are surrounded by our dead relatives at every moment? . It makes me question what i do when i think about it.

 

[fyl3toys]

like if the voice in your head is yourself, who is the one that is listening?

You are. The voice in your head is a conversation with yourself.

 

[User_89876]

What if there is no free will and everything is determined by physical laws only?
What if there never was a choice for me to not play lewd games?

 

[blublu62y]

The thing bout humans and ours language is that we are aware of ourselves, like if the voice in your head is yourself, who is the one that is listening? All the time i remember shit like that, and i'm always like thinking almost obsessionally about the world, who i am and if i am good enough, the universe and all, do you also have thoughts like that? If so could you share a little about your thoughts and point of view?

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(theoretical image of you thinking about this shit)

just had a good one btw, like what people would thing about loving robots

 

[blublu62y]

What if there is no free will and everything is determined by physical laws only?
What if there never was a choice for me to not play lewd games?

well, if we take in count that the begging of the universe was when the past time fiscal laws stop working, witch means that yesd, the laws of fisics were broken once a long time ago, and that in sub atomic levels of fisics are actually really random, like for example shcweninger and all, witch two states can exist at the same time, i think the answer is no, you are not a puppet of fate, but you are a puppet of social and economical laws of interaction

 

[User_89876]

well, if we take in count that the begging of the universe was when the past time fiscal laws stop working, witch means that yesd, the laws of fisics were broken once a long time ago, and that in sub atomic levels of fisics are actually really random, like for example shcweninger and all, witch two states can exist at the same time, i think the answer is no, you are not a puppet of fate, but you are a puppet of social and economical laws of interaction

Randomness in the laws of physics might make it unpredictable for us, but it still doesn't leave room for free will. At no point there is a factor of choice so that at any given time our will could lead to two different outcomes.
This one explains it quite well:

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[bobsyouruncle1234]

Nah I don't really think about things like that anymore. Seemed pointless, probably is.

 

[Cplcuddles]

What if there is no free will and everything is determined by physical laws only?
What if there never was a choice for me to not play lewd games?

Can i really be prosecuted if I had no choice in the matter?

 

[Deprecated😈]

"What's the difference between me and you?"

We aren't actually that different. Yes, we might be sharing some same ideology or thoughts but what I meant is us, as humans have been battling so long since BC. We humans are almost as the same as animals, highly competitive with each other. This first started as territorial dispute to full on never ending wars, with uncounted casualties. You see, when we were born, the first thing that our parents teaches us is to compete. You first started to compete when you're in school/home school where you battle in academics and social networking. Then, as we grow up, we battle in financials, relationships etc. These battles that we are in makes us highly competitive with each other, no matter what's the gender.



If we ignore the concept of morality, these competitions can get very dark. What I meant by dark is high amounts of bodycount, regardless of age. You might not see this now but when you grow older, and if the money just right, you can make your enemies disappear, by physical or mental means.



We're Homo Sapiens. We're born to compete.

 

[blublu62y]

Randomness in the laws of physics might make it unpredictable for us, but it still doesn't leave room for free will. At no point there is a factor of choice so that at any given time our will could lead to two different outcomes.
This one explains it quite well:

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well i see where you are coming now, the thing is that yes you are government by your pass, but actually that past in a large scale is irrelevant the more time you give it because, decoupling of scales doesn't make any sense, butterfly effect just breaks it, if one particle using quantum jump pops amount of it predicable route, your comportment at some point will be changed, the thing is that the more time you give for this random events to pile the bigger the effect on your actions of day to day, making you uncontrollable even if someone could read your destiny, you may not decided where the river goes, but no one can, not even god can, therefore can we call that predicable or even fate? You may not control the fact that you are playing lewd games, but not even destiny could if if he wanted, so no, you are not controlled by fate neither your past. And you cannot deny that the laws of fisics are bound to change if enough time is given, because if not this universe should not been born, passing from a state that there was no time not even atoms to the thing that we posses now.

 

[blublu62y]

"What's the difference between me and you?"

We aren't actually that different. Yes, we might be sharing some same ideology or thoughts but what I meant is us, as humans have been battling so long since BC. We humans are almost as the same as animals, highly competitive with each other. This first started as territorial dispute to full on never ending wars, with uncounted casualties. You see, when we were born, the first thing that our parents teaches us is to compete. You first started to compete when you're in school/home school where you battle in academics and social networking. Then, as we grow up, we battle in financials, relationships etc. These battles that we are in makes us highly competitive with each other, no matter what's the gender.



If we ignore the concept of morality, these competitions can get very dark. What I meant by dark is high amounts of bodycount, regardless of age. You might not see this now but when you grow older, and if the money just right, you can make your enemies disappear, by physical or mental means.



We're Homo Sapiens. We're born to compete.

that is why i am a trans humanist, humanit kinda sucks, bring the metal bb,

 

[48e1-920b-9a4ff0ce20]

Can i really be prosecuted if I had no choice in the matter?

*edit: snip long philosophic rant that touched on philosophic topics outside the bounds of this forum*

And yes, you can : P

 

[User_89876]

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What?

Longer reaction: This seems to be an attempt to create some sort of proof, but honestly, each sentence starts with a questionable premise, and an even more dubious conclusion. Did you come up with that on your own, maybe you could rephrase what this is all about? If it is some religious argument, I am sorry, that is not allowed here just like political discussions.

 

[48e1-920b-9a4ff0ce20]

If it is some religious argument, I am sorry, that is not allowed here just like political discussions

Ah, it wasn't really meant to be, but since free will was being discussed, it does dip into it in seeking to set a foundation for the assumption of clockwork being, regardless of ones assumptions on the nature of reality, with the overall structure aiming for a psuedoacademic rant indicating that a lack of free will doesn't excuse one from the consequences of ones actions before suddenly swapping tone at the end for humorous effect.

I had no intention of driving the thread further towards content unapproved for the forum. Does it step over the line? Should I remove it, do you think?

 

[User_89876]

I don't make the rules, but for me it is fine
And I think I get what you are after. Even without free will, you emphasize on a moral obligation to do good (whatever that is). I think I cann support that, even if I don't follow your arguments.

 

[48e1-920b-9a4ff0ce20]

I don't make the rules, but for me it is fine
And I think I get what you are after. Even without free will, you emphasize on a moral obligation to do good (whatever that is). I think I cann support that, even if I don't follow your arguments.

I checked, and you were right. Would you mind snipping my rant out of your response?

 

[Rostabu]

*edit: snip long philosophic rant that touched on philosophic topics outside the bounds of this forum*

And yes, you can : P

this prosecution questions about playing sinner games can we be arrested for having them on computer? when you hear of a **** getting caught with 1500 ** pics is it just a single game or is he really guilty of being ****?

 

[Rostabu]

this prosecution questions about playing sinner games can we be arrested for having them on computer? when you hear of a **** getting caught with 1500 ** pics is it just a single game or is he really guilty of being ****?

hate to comment on my comment but... I don't see game playing as an issue... it people doing real world shit thats the issue.

 

[48e1-920b-9a4ff0ce20]

this prosecution questions about playing sinner games can we be arrested for having them on computer? when you hear of a **** getting caught with 1500 ** pics is it just a single game or is he really guilty of being ****?

it all depends on what the laws are like wherever you are. even in places with high freedom of speech, obscenity is often a crime.

however, if you're in the USA, you can likely assume that if cops are kicking a door in, it's probably not because someone likes dirty games.

but, hey, I'm not lawyer. go find one and see if they think your stuff crosses the line.