Games That Try Too Hard to Sell Its Author's Point of View

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Let's talk about games that seem to prioritize the author's point of view (usually on social issues) over creating an engaging and enjoyable gaming experience. I understand that it is up to the creator to express their beliefs through their work, but there are times when these attempts can backfire and negatively impact the overall experience.

One such example is "The Hard Way," a game where the author's desire to push their agenda on players seems overly aggressive and detracts from the quality of the gameplay itself (which is not great anyway). While it may be interesting to explore different perspectives, creators should try to strike a balance between delivering a powerful message and maintaining an enjoyable gaming experience.

I would love to hear your thoughts on other games that suffer from this issue. Have you come across any other titles where the author's personal beliefs overshadowed the overall quality of the game?
 

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Let's talk about games that seem to prioritize the author's point of view (usually on social issues) over creating an engaging and enjoyable gaming experience. I understand that it is up to the creator to express their beliefs through their work, but there are times when these attempts can backfire and negatively impact the overall experience.

One such example is "The Hard Way," a game where the author's desire to push their agenda on players seems overly aggressive and detracts from the quality of the gameplay itself (which is not great anyway). While it may be interesting to explore different perspectives, creators should try to strike a balance between delivering a powerful message and maintaining an enjoyable gaming experience.

I would love to hear your thoughts on other games that suffer from this issue. Have you come across any other titles where the author's personal beliefs overshadowed the overall quality of the game?
Are you saying porn game devs are woke? can't say I've noticed any agendas being pushed in the games I've played.
 
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Are you saying porn game devs are woke? can't say I've noticed any agendas being pushed in the games I've played.
Not necessarily woke, but everyone has its viewpoint, and some try to convince others of it. The agenda in the game I referred to is definitly not woke, more something similar to QAnon...
 

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Mason Gambit wins this contest by a country mile.
 
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Let's talk about games that seem to prioritize the author's point of view (usually on social issues) over creating an engaging and enjoyable gaming experience. I understand that it is up to the creator to express their beliefs through their work, but there are times when these attempts can backfire and negatively impact the overall experience.

One such example is "The Hard Way," a game where the author's desire to push their agenda on players seems overly aggressive and detracts from the quality of the gameplay itself (which is not great anyway). While it may be interesting to explore different perspectives, creators should try to strike a balance between delivering a powerful message and maintaining an enjoyable gaming experience.

I would love to hear your thoughts on other games that suffer from this issue. Have you come across any other titles where the author's personal beliefs overshadowed the overall quality of the game?
I would say almost every VN game. Most of the time its not a real game, just a story with some simple coices with meaningless (or not at all) impacts on the story. So, every dev chooses the direction of the plot, guiding us to that. They can add some elements for the fanbase, sure, but it's their choices, their drama, their "point of view".
 

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I would say almost every VN game. Most of the time its not a real game, just a story with some simple coices with meaningless (or not at all) impacts on the story. So, every dev chooses the direction of the plot, guiding us to that. They can add some elements for the fanbase, sure, but it's their choices, their drama, their "point of view".
Of course. But when we get pages and pages of exposition of particular ideological tenets, I believe it goes from "presenting a viewpoint through gameplay" to straight propaganda. More so if a particular ideological position is presented always as the "right" one, and the others, when they appear, are just there to be used by the "baddies" or to be debunked.
This is particularly atrocious when it concern issues where there is more than one valid position, but all but the chosen one are invalidated through exposition...
 

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My Early Life - Just had to mention that the MC's cute " sisters " were not blood
related like over 50 times. Pushing a anti incest message really made it a lame
shituation.
 
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My Early Life - Just had to mention that the MC's cute " sisters " were not blood
related like over 50 times. Pushing a anti incest message really made it a lame
shituation.
I don't think there's an anti-incest author's position.
On the one hand, it's a plot device for corruption purposes.
On the other hand, it's a feature that can help prevent the dev's page getting wiped from Patreon for rules violation.
 
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I gave up on The Hard Way because of the overt pushing of the developers views into the gameplay. Saying that, there was a lot I didn't really like about it.

Outside that one, I can't say I've really been aware of it. Maybe I've been brainwashed and just not noticed?
 

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If I was a dev then I would push my viewpoint, for sure. Although, it would probably just confuse most people since my views are all over the map.

I'm an anti-woke liberal that dislikes lefties,
anti-gun person that supports stupid people shooting each other with guns legally,
quasi-feminist that can not stand feminist BS,
pro-sexual freedom but avoid sluts like the plague, conservative yet can't stand Republican propaganda,
atheist to the point of being an apistavist,
support the trans movement while roiling my eyes at their constant attack on definitions and hate their unhinged/pseudo cult-like behavior with pronouns,
I love Capitalism while wanting it to fail miserably,
and I will argue against my own political opinions because I am a contrarian that hates an unbalanced argument.

But yes, I've played games that are too pushy with social politics to the point of not wanting to play anymore.
 
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My Early Life - Just had to mention that the MC's cute " sisters " were not blood
related like over 50 times. Pushing a anti incest message really made it a lame
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haha! yeah .. thats a good one
 

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more something similar to QAnon
I remember that old game The Hard Way. QAnon? Never would have made that connection, but I guess people find what they're looking for. I will say that conspiracy theories can be highly entertaining when incorporated into things like games and fiction.
 
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I hate to even say it because I like the dev and they are fairly active on this site but playing their games feels like an insane mans ramblings sometimes any political topics come up.
 

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Maybe I'm just blind, but I haven't noticed any ideological messaging in the games I play.
The writing is usually too focused on getting to the horny stuff.

I suppose you could say that makes most porn game devs are pro Sexual Liberation, since there's not a lot of judgement for all the pre-marital sex.
 

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opinion, porn (and porn games as a special case of this phenomenon) is essentially apolitical. It stems from the very essence of porn.
As for “The Hard Way” - I didn't even try to download this game because of the extremely negative reviews of it on *95* and island-of-plesure.
I don't know if it can be considered an ideological message that the action of all known games and VN takes place in a capitalist society, completely ignoring the existence of socialist countries? Although the cultural setting in China or Laos is so different from the Western world that the realities there would not be understandable to Western audiences. Japan is more westernized, after all.
 

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The most blatant are usually kink games (incest/loli/NTR etc.) where the characters will, in the middle of sex, practically start staring at the camera and giving a speech about how great that particular kink is. It feels like the dev was trying to squeeze more excitement out of the audience.
 

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I don't think there's an anti-incest author's position.
On the one hand, it's a plot device for corruption purposes.
On the other hand, it's a feature that can help prevent the dev's page getting wiped from Patreon for rules violation.
100&, especially regarding the rules violation
Just simply trying to protect their page and source of income
 

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While everyone has their own views, having another person's views shoved down your throat is never pleasant.

A few come to mind, but most are not usually so bad they're unplayable.

I prefer most of my media to be as apolitical as possible. I am especially not playing a porn game for your message on starving children in Africa or your thoughts on abortions, trans rights or etc.
 
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