ELI5 How to do basic AI Generated Images... Please...

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I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but... could someone give me the step by step basics to "Ahem" create AI images that may be appealing to certain folks...?

There are posts about "Self Learning" and "There are tutorials out there" but I seem to be lacking in my ability to sleuth it seems...

I would love to try my hand at this and provide some content to the community from it! but... Well... I'm an idiot when it comes to this... My first basic attempts would be good prompts for horror stories... I am not barking up the right tree...

Anyone willing to take the time to point me in the right direction??
 
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I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but... could someone give me the step by step basics to "Ahem" create AI images that may be appealing to certain folks...?

There are posts about "Self Learning" and "There are tutorials out there" but I seem to be lacking in my ability to sleuth it seems...

I would love to try my hand at this and provide some content to the community from it! but... Well... I'm an idiot when it comes to this... My first basic attempts would be good prompts for horror stories... I am not barking up the right tree...

Anyone willing to take the time to point me in the right direction??
There are 3 main AI art generators 1 of which is mostly free (stable diffusion). After that you can add in models which essentially is what the AI learns from (the pony ones are really good for humans its weird), but if you are looking for "realistic AI" that would be removed from this website then you are asking in the wrong place. I think if you look for AI art redits and leave out the loli part you will get some experienced answers or message some of the people on this site who are posting art and ask them directly.
Also if you can generate the images on your own PC its much better than using the online generators IMO (i run off a laptop and it threatens to start a fire if i do so, so I am stuck with online). In my limited experience AI art demands multiple iterations meaning there's a fair amount of work refining the image and prompt to get it to produce exactly what you want.

TLDR: You don't say "Draw me a naked redheaded girl" and expect a good result.
 
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My first suggestion in to look up what a LoRA is and how to use it, That will help build the base of all your creations.
 
I've heard that Stable Diffusion is the way to go.

I'd LOVE to know Stable Diffusion, but I've seen dozens of Youtube videos about how to download and use, and it's always "You need this program as well. And this one. And that one." Python seems to be a recurring name, though, like Indiana Jones... I don't like snakes. o_O

Seriously, though, I miss the days when you downloaded a program and that was all you needed. For SD, I think you need the program, a few things like Python and the like and something like a User Interface... Like... dude! I'm proud of myself when I find the ON BUTTON on my computer.

If I'm wrong about Stable diffusion, I would LOVE a one-step DL, click, start prompts way to do it.
 
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i think it would be a good idea for you to start with an online AI image generator to learn the basics with some basic SFW images - focus on how to write proper positive and negative prompts, and what the basic options do (like "CFG scale" ,"Sampler type", and "Steps").

once you master the basics, i would then recommend you consider how to install and use Stable Diffusion. You don't have to know programming, but unless you are good with computers, it will be challenging to install and use.
 
Note - the prompt was "20 year old Asian woman wearing a red tank top and red hot pants walking down the street." Unfortunately, only shows the top - like a lot of the porn AI ones.
Link:
Luma Dream Machine
 
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My first suggestion in to look up what a LoRA is and how to use it, That will help build the base of all your creations.
TBH I learned about LoRA a couple of days ago, once I had the basis of generation more or less down. It's an unnecessary extra weight at first in my opinion.

Anyway, @thropper , it depends on what you mean by certain folk, but if you already have Automatic1111, sd.next or any other one installed, just try things, if you don't want to follow a guide, just start small and slowly add things as you get the gist of how it work.
for example, this is my fist image with a human in it that I made on June the fourth.
If you check the commentaries in details, you'll see I only gave it 3 words to work with(start small)
then you add stuff to se what works and what doesnt, anything within ( ) gets priority, sometimes adding more give more priority, others you need to do it like this (big breast: 10) to denote priority level, it depends on what you are using. [ ] does the opossite.
It also depends on whether you are using sd1.5(for us peasants) or SDXL (for the 1%) as prompts are done in different ways.

Once you more or less understand that, start making small changes in "almost" good images using img2img to add/remove/fix things you dislike or would like to have. by changing the denoise strength (0 same image -> 0,5 similar but different -> 1 random bullshit)
This is what I did five days later.
This one, for "reasons" does not carry metadata.

Once I felt confortable doing bullshit, I started experimenting with LoRA. And that is still a work in progress.
This perfectly normal Hogwarts student for example, has a weird hand, so using inpaint you can fix it

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There are 3 main AI art generators 1 of which is mostly free (stable diffusion). After that you can add in models which essentially is what the AI learns from (the pony ones are really good for humans its weird), but if you are looking for "realistic AI" that would be removed from this website then you are asking in the wrong place. I think if you look for AI art redits and leave out the loli part you will get some experienced answers or message some of the people on this site who are posting art and ask them directly.
Also if you can generate the images on your own PC its much better than using the online generators IMO (i run off a laptop and it threatens to start a fire if i do so, so I am stuck with online). In my limited experience AI art demands multiple iterations meaning there's a fair amount of work refining the image and prompt to get it to produce exactly what you want.

TLDR: You don't say "Draw me a naked redheaded girl" and expect a good result.
Thanks for your comments TheVampirate!

No, I am not asking for "realistic", that's not what I am after. but the Members+ side of things... well... that could be... :sneaky:

stable diffusion seems to be the way to go with my research!!
 
Ok, your options are going to depend on the type of computer hardware you have.
So, before I go any further, what graphics card is in your computer? And how much vram does it have?
If it's not good enough you are going to be limited to online generators.

The problem with AI is that if you ask it to be horny, it doesn't really understand how old a subject looks so it can accidentally create images that are a problem in many places. With a home one, you can just delete the ones that might get you into trouble, but it can become an issue if using an online generator.
So, well, my graphics card is not a "potato" but, well its more a Ferrari of a few years gone by at this point...

So your saying "prompts" are critical?
 
TBH I learned about LoRA a couple of days ago, once I had the basis of generation more or less down. It's an unnecessary extra weight at first in my opinion.

Anyway, @thropper , it depends on what you mean by certain folk, but if you already have Automatic1111, sd.next or any other one installed, just try things, if you don't want to follow a guide, just start small and slowly add things as you get the gist of how it work.
for example, this is my fist image with a human in it that I made on June the fourth.
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If you check the commentaries in details, you'll see I only gave it 3 words to work with(start small)
then you add stuff to se what works and what doesnt, anything within ( ) gets priority, sometimes adding more give more priority, others you need to do it like this (big breast: 10) to denote priority level, it depends on what you are using. [ ] does the opossite.
It also depends on whether you are using sd1.5(for us peasants) or SDXL (for the 1%) as prompts are done in different ways.

Once you more or less understand that, start making small changes in "almost" good images using img2img to add/remove/fix things you dislike or would like to have. by changing the denoise strength (0 same image -> 0,5 similar but different -> 1 random bullshit)
This is what I did five days later.
This one, for "reasons" does not carry metadata.

Once I felt confortable doing bullshit, I started experimenting with LoRA. And that is still a work in progress.
This perfectly normal Hogwarts student for example, has a weird hand, so using inpaint you can fix it

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These are really fantastic!

Thank you for your comments on LoRA! I think I am getting a little more of an idea of where to go and play, but still, well,... I don't think I'm as smart as the rest of you...!
 
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Step by step

1. Download ForgeUI, faster than Atomatic1111 and less of a strain on your hardware-

2. Install and run Forge (or any app) in a virtual environment (called venv).
Run forge via the file named webui.sh in Forge's main folder
(right-click run as program, or command prompt)

3. Download a model from " ( I love iniverse mix, but it is an XL model that older hardware will have trouble with)

4. Place the downloaded models in forge-ui/models/Stable-Diffusion folder

5. Find Loras you like from the same website, paying attention to if they're for SD1.5, XL or Pony models

6. Place Loras in forge-ui/models/Lora folder

7. You can start generating immediately, settings for your specific model can usually be found on it's download page on Citivai. But the main settings to be aware of are:
image size,
sampling method,
sampling steps,
CFG scale.
The rest you will learn as you go.

Look up tutorials on how to install and run venv. The Forge download page has some instruction too-

Unfortunately, you will be stumbling around a bit until you get the hang of everything. Just stay calm ;)
 
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Mine was video, though...
 
Title says it all. I downloaded and installed stable-diffusion-webui-forge from GitHub and Pony Diffusion V6 XL from Civitai, but no matter what everything I create is some shit, worse than the AI slop I usually seem on boorus and such. I even went through Civitai's gallery tryng to replicate stuff, using the same LoRA, prompts and such, or the prompt from AI Character Generator from Perchance, but it isn't even close. Can someone shine some light on what the fuck I'm doing so wrong?

Not entirely related, but there is any way to create lolis on Perchance's AI Character Generator? There's any other good free online generators besides that?

I'd be extremely thankful if someone gave me tips. I swear I've already tried various different prompts or searching from tutorials, but I've never found anything... :cry:
 
It's really good but recently, they have limited certain creations but we can have fun
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how did u make it only be one woman in picture? i have problem with sometimes being two.
 
how did u make it only be one woman in picture? i have problem with sometimes being two.
It's in the prompt. I put it in the singular and there is only one person. What's hard is making several people with specific faces or clothes.
 
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I just finished installing this just now
Got everything from here and followed the steps... Yes i know,,, Hé even nerdy pervs need some other nerd to help em now and then ;)
So far so good:
I did check requirements ,, but i could run it no problem it's not that heavy to run.

I went for the AUTOMATIC1111's WebUI one.,,, now for the experimenting and mishaps :D


EDIT,,,, It's not me that is on that learning curve,,,,, Damn,,, this is gonna take some time to get the ai to assemble a human lol.
 
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Title says it all. I downloaded and installed stable-diffusion-webui-forge from GitHub and Pony Diffusion V6 XL from Civitai, but no matter what everything I create is some shit, worse than the AI slop I usually seem on boorus and such. I even went through Civitai's gallery tryng to replicate stuff, using the same LoRA, prompts and such, or the prompt from AI Character Generator from Perchance, but it isn't even close. Can someone shine some light on what the fuck I'm doing so wrong?

Not entirely related, but there is any way to create lolis on Perchance's AI Character Generator? There's any other good free online generators besides that?

I'd be extremely thankful if someone gave me tips. I swear I've already tried various different prompts or searching from tutorials, but I've never found anything...
Gonna tell what's what. Don't just jump in and start with the complex stuff.
You wanna/need to learn the basics first.
Here goes:
Different base models,, or base model libraries (< would be a better name if you ask me) need/have different base setting for them to work normal and not give you a picasso painting.
So if you get what i call human meatball... your CFG scale <<<<< That one makes the AI follow the prompts you put in to the letter and strict if you set it HIGH ,,, or it will just fuck around by itself if it's low.
Start out simple and set it low at 1,,, As for the prompts,, start simple as well,, just do a "Woman", outside, beach, ...... That's it. see what it does and go from there and see the improvement when you set the CFG higher.
Don't go skipping 5 steps with it ,,, The highest i have had it was 7 so far. I went from human meatball to something like : [Redacted] EDIT,, YES,, my example pic got nuked :cry:

Yes i can't show the rest of the pic Yes i made a whole series with them,,, yes they do different poses,,,,,,,and the prompt actually is (((2girls))), 25 years old, beach, yadda yadda yadda

(please don't kill me mods, i just wanted/needed a example kinda wanted to show where i am now 2),,,
(for the mods are reading this,,,, i told you i was practicing)
Now if the colors are out of wack or the eyes are all fucked up,,, That is your SAMPLING STEPS. < that one tries to make the picture better,, clearer,, sharper,, on all fronts: Skin wise, all colors in the picture.
There is a point that you set the steps to,,, that it goes all fucked up and the colors go bad = 2 high,, set it to low,, and the pic stays fuzzy and out of focus.
Most base model libraries are in the 20 to infinity range ... SO set it at 20 if it's not already there as the base setting.
Next: SIZE of the pic,,,, Go for 960x960 max for testing,, cause the ai WILL do some weird shit if you go higher.
But 640 wide x 960 is a good setting.
If you go smaller,,, the AI will crop out limbs and heads if your prompts are not good enough,, So as a beginner do the middle ground on size.

Now here is the fun part For figuring shit out,,, Get a small Base model library to test with. Even a actual model base library that actually only has 1 model.
It will be smaller,, and options will be limited,,, But renders will be quick,,, so quick setting change and off you go for a new test.
I would get realModelBase01_v10CLCM to do that with, it's 1.98 GB instead of the 6-7 or nearly 8 GB
civitaiDOTCOM/models/498162/real-model-base01
You will need to make a account most likely,, but all you need is a e-mail,,, and that's it,,, Unless you wanna go and find things to buy from people ;)
Ohhh and pay attention to the comments of the poster,,, SOME MAKE MODELS WITH text, watermark, copyright whatever you wanna call it

Now for the people that noticed the (((2girls))) where in brackets,,
Stable Diffusion ,, the one i use as i stated somewhere around here ,,, or another thread OTHER TOPIC,,,,( has the option to make things more important.. so 2girls,, (2girls), ((2girls)) or (((2grils))) are different the last one being the most important.
Also in Stable Diffusion :::::: <lora: perfectEyesXL:1> perfect eyes , <<< NO space inbetween <lora: perfectEyesXL:1> the tread makes it into :p on auto
Is the trigger to use a Lora,,, or extra option / bonus effect / improvement effect ,,,whatever you wanna call it,,, it is that. In this case Better/realistic looking eyes.
So,,,,, That would make the prompt something like this :
(((2girls))), 1white, 1african, wide angle lens, ultrarealistic 4k, realistic, sharp focus, hyper realistic, lifelike texture, intricate face, intricate eyes, intricate body, high contrast, braided hair, 1 with light green eyes, perky breasts, bubble butt, lying on stomach, beach front, smiling, perfect eyes, sunshine, 1sun, blue sky, some white clouds, beach bar, seashells, crab in shallow tidal waves,
<lora:perfectEyesXL:1>, <----------------- see it did the :p on auto again : p

Yes you need to become a photographer,,,,,,,, :cry: or learn to talk like some romance novel writer to set the scene instead of doing all the ,word, word, word, like i do.
Now civitai dot com has some issues website wise,, it can't keep up with it's users and what they post on it,, but your best bet is to go get your stuff from there.

Now that you have that and understand you get to the negative prompts :
no head, no face, no legs, no arms, extra limbs, extra fingers, extra arms, extra legs, extra nipples, cropped out limbs, pubic hair, piercings, tattoos, stretching midriff, midriff stretching, deformed midriff, low quality,
AND WHATEVER YOU COME ACROSS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TOO SEE AGAIN,,, put that in there.


As for the younger women question on perchance,,, NO,, they blocked that as did all online ai gens,,, all you get at most is fully clothed i think.
 
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