AI CG Art isn't ethical

[User_62433]

Look, I get this a free-speech forward type of forum. And I get that a cartoon of my little pony doing the nasty with solid snake is probably ethically safer than real porn. So what I'm going to say isn't gonna be super popular.

But AI art is bad.

a) It is produced using images of non-consenting people
b) it is known that ai training sets include images from real life dark content (not fake stuff, actual dark shit floating collected from seedy ass corners of the web by the auto-crawler)
c) it is known that ai will occasionally get lazy and reproduce images from its dataset, basically exactly as they are

Now I get that the people here are masturbation addicts whose brains have been ruined by porn, probably with extra dark fetishes that will never see the light of day. But I like to think that most of us don't want to hurt real people, and more or less are respectable human beings outside of our brains being soaked in hentai for too long.

So respectfully, don't look at ai porn. And if it were up to me, it wouldn't be a thing, especially for known celebrities and darker content.

 

[carseat42]

I personally find AI generated photos unappealing and uncanny so that's not an issue for me.

 

[yibifi2784]

I personally find AI generated photos unappealing and uncanny so that's not an issue for me.

I agree, but they will likely keep getting better for a while, so it's good to have the ethical concerns in mind anyway.

 

[ErzuzB]

If it's done for ones own amusement and without making money out of it, there is not that much wrong with it.

"But it hurts the artists!"
Yes, but not if you weren't buying from them anyway. There can be no losses if there wouldn't be no earnings.

"But it is bad for the celeb who's image you use."
In what way? Where is the difference if one jerks off to a consenting bikini shot or an Ai image? Or the fantasy one has?

"What about all the training the AI gets from your images?"
Does it? Does it really get any training if someone runs it from their private computer without access to the internet? No, of course not.

 

[Xonia]

Look, I get this a free-speech forward type of forum. And I get that a cartoon of my little pony doing the nasty with solid snake is probably ethically safer than real porn. So what I'm going to say isn't gonna be super popular.

But AI art is bad.

a) It is produced using images of non-consenting people
b) it is known that ai training sets include images from real life dark content (not fake stuff, actual dark shit floating collected from seedy ass corners of the web by the auto-crawler)
c) it is known that ai will occasionally get lazy and reproduce images from its dataset, basically exactly as they are

Now I get that the people here are masturbation addicts whose brains have been ruined by porn, probably with extra dark fetishes that will never see the light of day. But I like to think that most of us don't want to hurt real people, and more or less are respectable human beings outside of our brains being soaked in hentai for too long.

So respectfully, don't look at ai porn. And if it were up to me, it wouldn't be a thing, especially for known celebrities and darker content.

soooo:
A: not always, it pulls information for the prompts you ask it. then compiles it in the best way it can be interpreted on a fictious model. Hense why hands mouths, eyes, feet are normally all messed up
B: only if told to. it doesnt use it as a database. unless thats where the data base is stored and pulling from.
C: again, only if prompts are used, its why you can use the same prompts can get the same image but in a different pose/ form. its like RAM, of course it will pull form the data base it just used to quicken the generation.
Not everyone here is porn addiict, thats not 100% true. that is your own interpretation of the idea.
There are a few bad cookies out there that do intend to do harm. If we do suspect those on this site, we can set measures to ensure everyone is safe including the individual in question.
This is why much of at least Federal law just says to make it illegal because it is getting harder to interpret real/fake images made with AI.
Just be safe out there, and help others where it is needed and asked for Good luck in the grind to 750

 

[carseat42]

I agree, but they will likely keep getting better for a while, so it's good to have the ethical concerns in mind anyway.

Fair, but it's not even the quality itself its just the nature of it. It looks so lifeless and bare most of the time. I like when I can see art and be like "hey, I know who made that" because of the unique styles, but when art has no actual creator it just becomes very plain.

 

[Zombiedaddy]

Here's some AI threads of mine! Elsa. RWBY. Enjoy!

 

[User_100467]

Hentai good, need moar

 

[User_62433]

Here's some AI threads of mine! Elsa. RWBY. Enjoy!

my point applies less to ai art of fictional characters for the record. I'm mostly talkin about photorealistic stuff, cuz I don't think most people get how the ai generators actually work, or have given much thought to what it means

 

[ErzuzB]

A: not always, it pulls information for the prompts you ask it. then compiles it in the best way it can be interpreted on a fictious model. Hense why hands mouths, eyes, feet are normally all messed up

I think this is more about that the person isn't consenting to have nudes been made from them, so it kinda doesn't matter if it's real or not. The only difference is, that Ai may look good enough to fool some people.

Not everyone here is porn addiict, thats not 100% true. that is your own interpretation of the idea.

Pretty sure that part was bait.

 

[Tosser]

All art is derivative at this point. Whether someone is using a pencil, chalk, brush or stylus to bring it into being, or dump it into a computer program, tweak parameters and hit a button, it's a similar process, just different tools.

 

[User_62433]

soooo:
A: not always, it pulls information for the prompts you ask it. then compiles it in the best way it can be interpreted on a fictious model. Hense why hands mouths, eyes, feet are normally all messed up
B: only if told to. it doesnt use it as a database. unless thats where the data base is stored and pulling from.
C: again, only if prompts are used, its why you can use the same prompts can get the same image but in a different pose/ form. its like RAM, of course it will pull form the data base it just used to quicken the generation.
Not everyone here is porn addiict, thats not 100% true. that is your own interpretation of the idea.
There are a few bad cookies out there that do intend to do harm. If we do suspect those on this site, we can set measures to ensure everyone is safe including the individual in question.
This is why much of at least Federal law just says to make it illegal because it is getting harder to interpret real/fake images made with AI.
Just be safe out there, and help others where it is needed and asked for Good luck in the grind to 750

I think it's important to exercise caution. Your points aren't totally off-base or anything, but I think you have to acknowledge the risk associated with these tools, and then kind of choose whether it's even worth it. And it is more or less true that I think most women would be upset to find out that, in a roundabout way, they're image was a part of the weird dream-logic model that someone published to the internet for all to do whatever with.

the porn addict thing was mostly a joke, but you have to admit that you need to be deep into porn games to even know about this site

 

[Hanz Feltersnatch]

Look, I get this a free-speech forward type of forum. And I get that a cartoon of my little pony doing the nasty with solid snake is probably ethically safer than real porn. So what I'm going to say isn't gonna be super popular.

But AI art is bad.

a) It is produced using images of non-consenting people
b) it is known that ai training sets include images from real life dark content (not fake stuff, actual dark shit floating collected from seedy ass corners of the web by the auto-crawler)
c) it is known that ai will occasionally get lazy and reproduce images from its dataset, basically exactly as they are

Now I get that the people here are masturbation addicts whose brains have been ruined by porn, probably with extra dark fetishes that will never see the light of day. But I like to think that most of us don't want to hurt real people, and more or less are respectable human beings outside of our brains being soaked in hentai for too long.

So respectfully, don't look at ai porn. And if it were up to me, it wouldn't be a thing, especially for known celebrities and darker content.

Your to late for me I'm afraid, I have been cumming bucket loads over AI images.

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[eezergoode]

All art is derivative at this point. Whether someone is using a pencil, chalk, brush or stylus to bring it into being, or dump it into a computer program, tweak parameters and hit a button, it's a similar process, just different tools.

This right here. Pretty much every artist learns, at least in part, from studying and even somewhat copying those who cam before them. I do take some issue with AI being used to generate nude and explicit images of real people, especially those who have made it clear they do not, and will not, pose/perform in those types of pictures and videos, and those to young to legally do so, but people being people, it's going to keep happening. And the AI will improve eventually to the point where the pictures don't look totally unreal.

 

[Xonia]

I think it's important to exercise caution. Your points aren't totally off-base or anything, but I think you have to acknowledge the risk associated with these tools, and then kind of choose whether it's even worth it. And it is more or less true that I think most women would be upset to find out that, in a roundabout way, they're image was a part of the weird dream-logic model that someone published to the internet for all to do whatever with.

the porn addict thing was mostly a joke, but you have to admit that you need to be deep into porn games to even know about this site

not really. you can easily get get from Itch and then a patron post, which would bring you to an Fuck95 post which brings you to here. We aren't that deep, just..new. That's why not a lot of people are here. Fuck95 has been around for sometime now so its well known. LC was made to better that community and provide a safer community and place for people who enjoy Porn/sex games, be it making them or...enjoying them.
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The woman comment: Yeah if that were me... i would be pissed to that my image is made to be something its not. I couldn't image the feeling.
Some women would feel its a compliment also. Its all based on view points.
Hell even some women who were adult actresses and have been out for a bit are sometimes ashamed they did porn.
Here at LC we dont shame people for what they like or dont like. There is no point. Everyone is different but we are here for the same reason. To enjoy quality hand made work...or get to get off haha.

 

[fernandotorres]

I have dressed many people I know in underwear using Al. Other than that, I stripped them naked. I dressed her in sexy clothes. I changed the color of your hair. I had fantasies with my classmates. But there is nothing dangerous there. I think the dangerous thing is to use them at a professional level and use them as a threat. I'm not against things done for fun.

 

[Xonia]

I think it's important to exercise caution. Your points aren't totally off-base or anything, but I think you have to acknowledge the risk associated with these tools, and then kind of choose whether it's even worth it. And it is more or less true that I think most women would be upset to find out that, in a roundabout way, they're image was a part of the weird dream-logic model that someone published to the internet for all to do whatever with.

the porn addict thing was mostly a joke, but you have to admit that you need to be deep into porn games to even know about this site

I really do respect your opinions on the matter. Its nice to have diversity on the platform!

 

[Shawnchapp]

Look, I get this a free-speech forward type of forum. And I get that a cartoon of my little pony doing the nasty with solid snake is probably ethically safer than real porn. So what I'm going to say isn't gonna be super popular.

But AI art is bad.

a) It is produced using images of non-consenting people
b) it is known that ai training sets include images from real life dark content (not fake stuff, actual dark shit floating collected from seedy ass corners of the web by the auto-crawler)
c) it is known that ai will occasionally get lazy and reproduce images from its dataset, basically exactly as they are

Now I get that the people here are masturbation addicts whose brains have been ruined by porn, probably with extra dark fetishes that will never see the light of day. But I like to think that most of us don't want to hurt real people, and more or less are respectable human beings outside of our brains being soaked in hentai for too long.

So respectfully, don't look at ai porn. And if it were up to me, it wouldn't be a thing, especially for known celebrities and darker content.

1, you mean the same way artists pull ideas/features/traits from people they met/seen to make a fictional character?
2, ehh no.. its not, i mean some are because thats what some perv wanted to do but no different then a hentai artist studying others porn to get ideas.
3, ya cause actual artist never get lazy and just blatantly copy someone famous.

 

[fernandotorres]

1, you mean the same way artists pull ideas/features/traits from people they met/seen to make a fictional character?
2, ehh no.. its not, i mean some are because thats what some perv wanted to do but no different then a hentai artist studying others porn to get ideas.
3, ya cause actual artist never get lazy and just blatantly copy someone famous.

Or he can actually make the story he has in mind by bringing it to someone he knows in real life and making the person he creates look like him. That way it will be more enjoyable.

 

[Valso]

Now I get that the people here are masturbation addicts whose brains have been ruined by porn

1. I discovered that rubbing my dick makes me feel good when I was 6 or 7 - looooong before I discovered porn.
2. I'm not gonna stop watching porn (AI or real) just because you said so.
3. Your entire post sounds like that of someone whose PP can't get up at the sight of a naked woman, so he decided to try and ruin it for everyone.