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So this whole thing got started due to someone misreporting a game as real life CA.
This was cleared up, and in an attempt to stiffle such problems in the future we now have a system where only active members of the community will take part in LC-parts of the community.
On the surface this seems like a fine sollution given that things stay the same. However, we now have a smaller public space for this type of content which will invariably meen that the networking effects will become stronger on the locked part of the site. This in turn could lead to a feedback loop where certain members will push limits. And as the only people who will see these infractions are also of dedicated, some would say driven, members, they might not push back.

The danger in such echo chambers lie in that you don't always recognize your own boundaries shifting. And when dealing with content of the nature we're dealing with, one could easily imagine such an echo chamber to become a radicalization chamber.

Over time this would invariably draw the attention of law enforcement, and rightfully so. So while I recognize the trouble keeping an open section of such content would bring, I wonder if the current solution might not be creating much bigger issues at a later time...
 
It is worse than that: even without radicalization, you are drawing a target in your back as someone who actively done significant actions to access content that in many jurisditions is at least frowned upon, if not actively prosecuted. Up till the moment, participation (particularly passive consumption) of LC didn't significantly made you a "person of interest" for LEA, because lots of innocent explanations could account for your presence here... Not any longer, if you have access to a certain part of the site is because you actively worked for it (and not an insignificant amount) or paid for it. And the disabling of the passive mechanism to earn LC makes it even more so. Regardless if it is intentional or not, LC is now for all intents and purposes an LEA honeypot.
 
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you are drawing a target in your back as someone who actively done significant actions to access content that in many jurisditions is at least frowned upon, if not actively prosecuted.
You might still want to get your membership upgrades for the purposes of status, for other perks or for a certain game. Are forums (in general, not of a particular type) with members only sections uncommon?
 
You might, but your excuses are growing thinner. That and the fact that the content will almost certainly get less hand-wavy
 
It is worse than that: even without radicalization, you are drawing a target in your back as someone who actively done significant actions to access content that in many jurisditions is at least frowned upon, if not actively prosecuted. Up till the moment, participation (particularly passive consumption) of LC didn't significantly made you a "person of interest" for LEA, because lots of innocent explanations could account for your presence here... Not any longer, if you have access to a certain part of the site is because you actively worked for it (and not an insignificant amount) or paid for it. And the disabling of the passive mechanism to earn LC makes it even more so. Regardless if it is intentional or not, LC is now for all intents and purposes an LEA honeypot.
Wow, yo all scaring me. I just wanna have fun with my lolis and forget anything else.
 
So this whole thing got started due to someone misreporting a game as real life CA.
This was cleared up, and in an attempt to stiffle such problems in the future we now have a system where only active members of the community will take part in LC-parts of the community.
On the surface this seems like a fine sollution given that things stay the same. However, we now have a smaller public space for this type of content which will invariably meen that the networking effects will become stronger on the locked part of the site. This in turn could lead to a feedback loop where certain members will push limits. And as the only people who will see these infractions are also of dedicated, some would say driven, members, they might not push back.

The danger in such echo chambers lie in that you don't always recognize your own boundaries shifting. And when dealing with content of the nature we're dealing with, one could easily imagine such an echo chamber to become a radicalization chamber.

Over time this would invariably draw the attention of law enforcement, and rightfully so. So while I recognize the trouble keeping an open section of such content would bring, I wonder if the current solution might not be creating much bigger issues at a later time...
Given all that, you are still staying as a member on here...
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Im not a lawyer or anything, but heres the thing. I am not here for member+, and I've actively stated this all over the forums. Im here because theres a community who understand my niche gaming interest, which is lewd/sexual Visual Novels and the like. That and having more than one site to download from gives me options in case one of them doesnt have active download links when they expire. Just because something IS on the site, doesnt mean everyone here has come for that reason. Theres a lot of people who will never go beyond member, and thats fine. The only reason I gained the ranks I have is because I enjoy this community. Theyre fun to be around and have a good laugh. What else am I going to do with it? 🤷‍♂️ If im going to be chatting with the community, at least I have a cool looking profile if I have VIP/VIP+ so why not use the coins Ive gathered? The concern about shifting bounderies I can see. But the moderation team have increased restrictions on everything and dont allow beyond those limits. If things got too lax and I began feeling uncomfortable, Id dip and Id say many of us are in that same thinking process.
 
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Im not a lawyer or anything, but heres the thing. I am not here for member+, and I've actively stated this all over the forums. Im here because theres a community who understand my niche gaming interest, which is lewd/sexual Visual Novels and the like. That and having more than one site to download from gives me options in case one of them doesnt have active download links when they expire. Just because something IS on the site, doesnt mean everyone here has come for that reason. Theres a lot of people who will never go beyond member, and thats fine. The only reason I gained the ranks I have is because I enjoy this community. Theyre fun to be around and have a good laugh. What else am I going to do with it? 🤷‍♂️ If im going to be chatting with the community, at least I have a cool looking profile if I have VIP/VIP+ so why not use the coins Ive gathered? The concern about shifting bounderies I can see. But the moderation team have increased restrictions on everything and dont allow beyond those limits. If things got too lax and I began feeling uncomfortable, Id dip and Id say many of us are in that same thinking process.
Due to the concerns I stated above, I too decided not to try to get Member+, and basically "drop off" the grind altogether. Yet, I'm not certain that this would be enough to allay all concerns...
 
I mean, you can always just delete your account and find somewhere else. I havent really understood the whole "grind" for member+ thing, personally. I can see having more games to choose from. But actively trying to access that side of things just feels weird to me. But to each their own I guess.
 
Im not a lawyer or anything, but heres the thing. I am not here for member+, and I've actively stated this all over the forums. Im here because theres a community who understand my niche gaming interest, which is lewd/sexual Visual Novels and the like. That and having more than one site to download from gives me options in case one of them doesnt have active download links when they expire. Just because something IS on the site, doesnt mean everyone here has come for that reason. Theres a lot of people who will never go beyond member, and thats fine. The only reason I gained the ranks I have is because I enjoy this community. Theyre fun to be around and have a good laugh. What else am I going to do with it? 🤷‍♂️ If im going to be chatting with the community, at least I have a cool looking profile if I have VIP/VIP+ so why not use the coins Ive gathered? The concern about shifting bounderies I can see. But the moderation team have increased restrictions on everything and dont allow beyond those limits. If things got too lax and I began feeling uncomfortable, Id dip and Id say many of us are in that same thinking process.
Well at least since you and me both got fathered in to members+
We don't have the "badge" for buying it.
So we can prove that we did not work or pay for the members+. It just happened by default :p
 
Due to the concerns I stated above, I too decided not to try to get Member+, and basically "drop off" the grind altogether. Yet, I'm not certain that this would be enough to allay all concerns...
Seriously now, I think your view is a bit extreme. LEA organizations have entire teams with advanced search systems working hard to hunt down x content, you seriously think they are going to focus on a user named "Pathinas" who has members+ for talking on a porn gaming forum? It doesn't make sense.
 
Seriously now, I think your view is a bit extreme. LEA organizations have entire teams with advanced search systems working hard to hunt down x content, you seriously think they are going to focus on a user named "Pathinas" who has members+ for talking on a porn gaming forum? It doesn't make sense.
The way I see it, if it is easy/cheap to do and can provide good incentives (in this case, good press), most human oragnizations will perform actions that are disporportionate in terms of benefits (to themselves) / damage (to others).

This means that jurisdictions that see this content as illegal will have an incentive to at least go to the ISP/hosting providers to get IP logs of users. The cost is low, and they can boast of "breaking a CSAM ring" with Y members in X countries to the press... So yes, I do expect it to happen sooner or later.
 
... The cost is low, and they can boast of "breaking a CSAM ring" with Y members in X countries to the press... So yes, I do expect it to happen sooner or later.
Of course, I personally don't agree with the CSAM statement at all, and the moderators are very aware not to allow actual CSA material, but in some jurisdictions, e.g. Australia, it is indeed classified as such.
 
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