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[dirty36]

Hahahahahaha. You just got the seven finger special up your pooper, funny man. Count 'em! 1,2,3,4,5,6,and 7!

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Yeah? You'll have to catch me first...

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Anyway I got's some pimpin' to do. Later all.

 

[Rich Frog]

There are a lot more strange penis knowledge waiting for you to explore

Okay this conversation is suspicious

 

[kakarottooalgo]

Did you know the Sun has no official name haha
I learned it from a VN called Lycoris Radiate (too bad they are remaking it to be a normal VN no adult stuff)

Hold up right there! for real?
Can we name it?
I hereby name the sun around which we orbit "the sleaze star" for as long as mankind (and womankind let's no be sexist, it's 2025) walks this blue earth.

 

[lszc]

Okay this conversation is suspicious

It seems so

 

[Underlord]

What's bad about privatization, depoliticization, and free trade?
You're wrong about what workers do, at least in Western countries. Here, we operate the machines that produce the goods, and support the services that the company as a whole organizes and sells.


That's not what I said. I said a CEO attracts investors thanks to their track record of making good decisions. This, in turn, can create more job opportunities if the company expands and production has to be increased. I never said anything about a CEO making their employees more productive.
CEOs are the captain of a ship. They don't own the ship, they're just in charge of setting the course and heading. If anything, they can have a large impact on the company's culture with the priorities they set. For instance, the new CEO of the company I work for made a big thing about inclusivity and dictated that all locations should have gender-neutral bathrooms.
In the case of a publicly traded company, the investors own the company. They decide how much they'll pay a CEO, which is also a consequence of the free market. Would you want to run a company valued at 3,000,000,000 dollars for a wage of $2,000/month? Realistically, could you? Or can you consider that a CEO has a very specific skill set and experience that not many people have, making them more expensive from a supply & demand perspective?
For that matter, when you gain experience in a job and get more responsibilities, shouldn't that be reflected in your pay as well?


Navigating this is the CEO's job. Other C-levels will have their own opinions and suggestions, but it's up to the CEO to decide what to do. Maybe the increase in sales was due to some special event (e.g. the Olympics), or perhaps there was a cultural shift that made the company's product more liked or disliked. A CEO who makes the wrong decisions here could impact the lives of thousands of people, endangering their livelihood. For instance, when their products become more disliked, a decision has to be made about switching advertising strategies or investing in the research of products that fit with the current zeitgeist.


Yet, the CEO's decisions have a much larger impact than those of a single worker. As a factory worker, my responsibilities are very limited. Nothing I can do can tank the company, even if I utterly fail at doing my job. My mistakes only impact my own employment. And, after I get home, I get to spend time with all of you lovely people, instead of being on-call 24/7 and having to put my job first.
This golden parachute is part of the negotiations between a prospective CEO and the board/shareholders. From the point of view of the CEO, it makes sense, they're taking a risk as well. They're legally required to act in the shareholder's best interest, and their interests could contradict the long-term health of the company, and by an extent, the CEO's reputation and future opportunities.


Yes, it is. It doesn't help that shareholders have those specific legal protections I mentioned earlier. This is why the focus of a publicly traded company switches from their actual product to making more money/profits. And you'll never hear me say that this doesn't have negative consequences for the employees.


Honestly, I don't appreciate being called a greedy and lazy parasite when I invested my hard-earned money in stocks with the hope of seeing profits. Sure, there are large investment firms who are guilty of these things, but you have to realize that millions of individuals are investing in stocks as well. Every single one of my colleagues has invested in some kind of fund or stocks.
Speaking for Western countries, the rest of what you say just isn't how things work. Of course we can loan money to do things we can't afford with our savings. To buy my house, I had to take out a loan. Even countries borrow from other countries. Why wouldn't companies be allowed to do the same?

I do agree that the wealth-gap is becoming an issue, but I see this as a problem of politics, not corporations/companies in themselves. These companies are playing by the rules that policies allow. Additionally, inflation drives the increase in cost of everything. But, then consider things like the Big Mac Index, and wonder why the same product costs 4x the amount in Switzerland than it does in South Africa. A large part of this difference is caused by the cost of wages in relation to each area's cost of living, and taxes.
Another issue that's pushing wages down is the abundance of low-skill/low-educated people. Everyone is capable of doing the job I do, not everyone is capable of managing a company's datacenter. It's normal for a company to try and attract skilled employees by paying them more wages. After all, a company has to attract these people because it's in their interest to have the best people in all positions.

The claim that the rich have no good effect on the real-world economy, I think is ridiculous. While I doubt that the trickle-down economy theory is entirely correct, some aspects of it make sense. The more money you have, the more risk you can take. The rich don't just sit on their money, they use it to invest in startups, fund research, or buy luxury products. All of this creates employment and drives innovation. If you have a great idea or an exceptional skill, you could find investors who'd want to fund you. Sure, they'd want to see some kind of return on that investment, but you'd be running your own business, potentially hiring a bunch of people to work with you. Would these employees deserve a share in the company that's based on your idea and skill?
Hell, just look at Patreon/SS/OnlyFans and how people with disposable income fund creators. This is an economic impact, and most of these subscribers aren't even what you'd call rich. Or take Starlink as an example of the other extreme. Without SpaceX, Musk would've never been able to build it. Yet it's being deployed all around the world, giving people who never had access to the internet an affordable way to access it. They can now look at the wealth of information (and porn, mostly porn) that's available, to better themselves and their communities.

Average amount of people are as you know are average.
They are too stupid to handle their wealth and blame others for finding out how the system works and winning.

 

[Evil Surgeon]

Does not really matter to me. Just means I will test something out later haha.

I'm 'ignoring' you.

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[lszc]

Average amount of people are as you know are average.
They are too stupid to handle their wealth and blame others for finding out how the system works and winning.

I have a saying here, you can't control what you think you have

 

[Evil Surgeon]

I have a saying here, you can't control what you think you have

We have a saying here too.

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[Underlord]

I'm 'ignoring' you.

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I will put you out for now I am having fun conversations with others haha

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I will take you out later haha

 

[lszc]

We have a saying here too.

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Looks like we're in the same place ,Or maybe it's just a coincidence

 

[Evil Surgeon]

I will put you out for now I am having fun conversations with others haha

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I will take you out later haha

You can't even be bothered to make a better one. Pfft.. amateur.

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[lszc]

A couple of hours, maybe less, maybe more here, and you'll have enough for the M+ rank, and get to the nice stuff.

Probably less since it is active hours time now.

It seems like as you guys say, I really got enough LC in such a short amount of time, and it's time to find a game

 

[Underlord]

You can't even be bothered to make a better one. Pfft.. amateur.

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Says the one beating up a random person.
Can't make a gif with my PFP amateur..

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[hollaman]

You can't even be bothered to make a better one. Pfft.. amateur.

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I regularly stand in awe of your gif wizardy

 

[Underlord]

It seems like as you guys say, I really got enough LC in such a short amount of time, and it's time to find a game

Well enjoy the games.

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[Slumdum]

It seems like as you guys say, I really got enough LC in such a short amount of time, and it's time to find a game

Congratulations on reaching it!

 

[Rich Frog]

Congratulations on reaching it!

Congratulations, now the fun begins.

 

[uncbuck]

The claim that the rich have no good effect on the real-world economy, I think is ridiculous.

While all of your talk about CEOs and the rich in general being worth it -- you overlook the silver spoon aspect -- NO ONE that starts off with 400 million from his daddy has a right to call himself a self made man - and he is profiting through no "work" of his own. His salary -- if he works - is decided upon by others that he coincidentally votes on their salaries. His position on boards - is decided by a network of others in the same position. If by some stroke of luck he leaves or loses his job - he will certainly land on another board. NO ONE -- even if he is the second coming of Cornelius Vanderbilt deserves a couple hundred million a year. I still maintain -- we need to eat the rich.

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[Quetz]

They are too stupid to handle their wealth and blame others for finding out how the system works and winning.

Yeah, this frustrates me at times. Instead of fantasizing about how things should be, I rather look at reality and see what is. There's plenty of valid criticism about capitalism, but we haven't come up with a better system that doesn't diminish its benefits (Peace, innovation, global increase in health, global decrease in life-threatening poverty).

 

[lszc]

Congratulations on reaching it!

Unfortunately, it's too late and for me, sleep is what I should be doing instead of playing