discussion On Hold Ren'Py DAZ Dominion Redux [v1.04 BugFix] [Fallen Angel Productions and Mylph Money]

[Randeza]

"Avoidable NTR"- yeah right

Yeah the dev are bullshitting when he tells that the game has Avoidable NTR

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Yeah the dev are bullshitting when he tells that the game has Avoidable NTR

go back to f95 to do your trolling don't believe this guy he skips through the whole game and cries about the ntr scenes they are unavoidable and it's easy to avoid them IF YOU READ THE GAME

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

"it's been inspired by The Tyrant and Big Brother now", if that's your inspiration then no wonder the game is like what it is
This is the main screen when you start the game make of this of what you will.....
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no it's not that's a loading screen he added it's not ntr that's the mother's boyfriend BEFORE SHE GETS WITH MC so it isn't ntr you cuck him now she becomes her woman stop with your bullshit and fuck off back to f95

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Nice. That's what i was thinking when it was posted on F95 that Unique is removed from the game and won't reappear. "But there might be another Futa ?" Thanks for the info.

at this time no new futa character is going to appear

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Dude when you load the game that the first image you see is it not? dosent matter if its "before" or not, why show it then??? i wont fuck off either, don't like negative opinion don't post then

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yes and it's not an opinion we've seen the comments you 2 guys have said on f95 don't come here with that shit

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Why not??? cos your a mod?? is that not the image you see when loading the game? yes or no?

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This is you isn't it?

I said yes learn to read

 

[Mr. Tearson]

"Avoidable NTR"- yeah right

Dude when you load the game that the first image you see is it not? dosent matter if its "before" or not, why show it then??? i wont fuck off either, don't like negative opinion don't post then.

This is an official warning in words. I have played the game and read through them. The NTR is avoidable. Please refrain from starting more trouble.
Thank you.​

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

why warn me then if thats a fact??

it was before that

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Fuck it, it's hopeless having an opinion here with the dev been a mod, i was trying to say it feels and looks like a ntr game, that looks the main focus of the game, i liked the game before the changes, just think in my "opinion" the game not worth supporting or playing anymore.

the problem wasn't you having an opinion the problem was you calling us a liar

 

[Randeza]

go back to f95 to do your trolling don't believe this guy he skips through the whole game and cries about the ntr scenes they are unavoidable and it's easy to avoid them IF YOU READ THE GAME

I am mentioning issues that are in the game that i think should be adressed. People that don't like ntr will close down the game immediately as soon as they start it up, because of the scene with the black dude and the mother that you can't avoid and the picture scenes on the main page, you also have dialogue scenes with members of the family with others that are red flags,like the black dude with the sister and so on,scenes that are in the none ntr shoulden't be there at all if you had made the right choices and didn't skip dialogue, your game in its current state is only appealing to ntr fans. The ntr system needs some tuning aswell. I am not trolling at all, if i was trolling would i be calling out the scenes i think should be removed from the none-ntr route?, i am simply disagreeing regarding what you view as optional ntr and i strongly believe in its current state that claiming it to have optional ntr is wrong in my opinion until the issues are adressed. Hopefully this make it more understanding of what i mean and hopefully you won't see it as trolling.

 

[User_63352]

I am mentioning issues that are in the game that i think should be adressed. People that don't like ntr will close down the game immediately as soon as they start it up, because of the scene with the black dude and the mother that you can't avoid and the picture scenes on the main page, you also have dialogue scenes with members of the family with others that are red flags,like the black dude with the sister and so on,scenes that are in the none ntr shoulden't be there at all if you had made the right choices and didn't skip dialogue, your game in its current state is only appealing to ntr fans. The ntr system needs some tuning aswell. I am not trolling at all, if i was trolling would i be calling out the scenes i think should be removed from the none-ntr route?, i am simply disagreeing regarding what you view as optional ntr and i strongly believe in its current state that claiming it to have optional ntr is wrong in my opinion until the issues are adressed. Hopefully this make it more understanding of what i mean and hopefully you won't see it as trolling.

100% you described the issue way better than i did

 

[Guitarman]

at this time no new futa character is going to appear

Thanks for the reply. Does " at this time" mean " perhaps much much later"? Or is any Futa option definitely ruled out ?

 

[RabidSloth2]

More often than not I'm willing to at least try to give people the benefit of the doubt rather than just assuming that they're intentionally lying and that that's the only explanation. So in this particular case, it's possible that your definition of what does and doesn't constitute NTR is just (imo) way off from what other people's is. Which understandably can lead to some serious misunderstandings. It's like sometimes when people argue because, while they are speaking the same language, they're using different dictionaries.

By my definition of (and I'm inclined to believe most other people's as well) "avoidable NTR", it's not a matter of simply not seeing it. You can't "avoid" NTR just by leaving the room, or blindfolding yourself, plugging your ears, and yelling "LALALALA!!!" while the LI is getting monster-fucked one room away.

Avoiding NTR is making sure that it doesn't happen at all. Whether the MC is present or not.

And besides that, I know there's some argument that can be made about "But it happened before the game starts. It was a past event. So it's doesn't count." But 1. Showing it is still just going to seriously put off and turn away people who hate NTR. And 2. Any sexual act that an LI does with another character (or at least a male one, to me) other than the MC during the events of the game is considered NTR. I can understand that if it's the mom with the dad or something before the MC breaks them up (if that's more or less what happens). But her hopping on the neighbor's bbc? Yeah. That's NTR. It doesn't stop being NTR just because the player chooses that the MC doesn't follow them to watch. And if the argument is "But her and the MC haven't even hooked up yet, so technically it isn't NTR." then all I can say is good luck trying to pitch that.

I haven't tried out the game in an update or two. So maybe that does or doesn't still happen. I don't know. I liked this game back when it was Cumming Home. But I don't like this new direction at all. But I'm sure there are probably some people who feel the opposite. To each their own and all that. I might give the game another try one day when it's completed, just out of curiosity. But for right now my personal interest in it was killed with the new direction.

Tl;dr It's possible that all this drama is just because of seriously conflicting definitions. Very possibly due to if your definition of NTR is very atypical compared to most people's. And I think that the drama will continue at least until clearer clarification is made.

 

[Culture_Shock87]

I'm kind of confused as to why that image even needs to be the first thing people see when loading the game/why isn't it just a general screenshot of the women looking sexy or something.

 

[Culture_Shock87]

I have played the latest update and it feels more and more like a bnwo game, but in which the mc can get some action as well and before the dev reports me again i say this because of certain images like magazine's they read and the tv they watch, (plus other images within the game) that's my feeling, also with the ntr switch off it makes no difference with the point's plus you see the futa fucking with the sister as well- that is not avoidable you see those scenes in the living room and the bedroom when you click them.

Eh, I didn't really have that much of problem with the influence points since I just put the MCs influence to an absurdly high amount using the Universal Ren'py mod.

But playing the most recent update the ladies seem to have chilled out with that stuff compared to the early game. For some reason though still the only thing they ever watch on TV is porn.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

I have played the latest update and it feels more and more like a bnwo game, but in which the mc can get some action as well and before the dev reports me again i say this because of certain images like magazine's they read and the tv they watch, (plus other images within the game) that's my feeling, also with the ntr switch off it makes no difference with the point's plus you see the futa fucking with the sister as well- that is not avoidable you see those scenes in the living room and the bedroom when you click them.

Correct on the Futa. That isn't avoidable.

What the Dev is trying to say is this: NTR is avoidable because the girls will eventually be with the MC so players won't have to deal with other men being with the LIs. Currently, they are not in a relationship to really be NTR. The whole family are sluts. The Futa eventually leaves, too and the Dev don't think she'll come back because of the situation(I'm not adding anymore spoilers than this.)

Now with that said... I'm putting down a final warning for everyone involves with the continuous drama.

No more talk about "lying about NTR". If there's a flaw in the code or something he doesn't know about, screenshot the scene and ask for clarification if that is right. Stick with constructive feedback so the Dev knows what he needs to do next. If this persists, I'm going to clean out this thread and give warnings after this post.
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[User_63352]

Correct on the Futa. That isn't avoidable.

What the Dev is trying to say is this: NTR is avoidable because the girls will eventually be with the MC so players won't have to deal with other men being with the LIs. Currently, they are not in a relationship to really be NTR. The whole family are sluts. The Futa eventually leaves, too and the Dev don't think she'll come back because of the situation(I'm not adding anymore spoilers than this.)

Now with that said... I'm putting down a final warning for everyone involves with the continuous drama.

No more talk about "lying about NTR". If there's a flaw in the code or something he doesn't know about, screenshot the scene and ask for clarification if that is right. Stick with constructive feedback so the Dev knows what he needs to do next. If this persists, I'm going to clean out this thread and give warnings after this post.
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Ah so the futa is unavoidable, deffo not the game i thought it was, as i had assumed it ment no scenes where shown with other people and the li's if i had ntr off and the point's in the mc favour, maybe you might want to add that the futa is unavoidable in the description on the first page. To some like me i consider it ntr if a li is shown with someone else, but guess thats just me then.

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

we don't see it as ntr she is the sister's gf it's just like the mother and her bf it's before they got together before they felt that way about mc when he gets OS and Unique they said they won't do anything without mc there with them I know everyone has their own opinion about it so we are working with our writer to think of some idea how to get around that because we can't remove her without delaying the game for a rewrite it won't be fair to the fans

 

[Tiur]

If most of the sex scenes are people who aren't the MC fucking LIs or future LIs, then while it may be "technically not NTR", it won't appeal to anyone who doesn't like NTR. That's what most people here are saying, though they're conflating it with their own definitions of NTR.

That said, devs: there is no point in being so aggressive about the "avoidable" label, nor do I see how you intend the game to appeal to anyone who doesn't like being cucked. It is a fact that there is unavoidable sex and imagery directly depicting LIs fucking other people, and constantly harping over the edges of the technical definitions of NTR just looks bad on everyone: you just as much as the people complaining about it.

People complaining: If the devs want to make a game where the LIs are all sluts who inhale every cock in sight other than the MC's until finally giving him a pity fuck, so be it. Ignore and avoid if that isn't your thing, and use the wisdom you have learned from how they handled this game and its reaction to choose whether to take their word about future projects or not.

Edited to add addendum: Making a separate game couched this way from the beginning, and not using the previous harem game as a springboard, would have avoided a lot of grief for everyone.

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

If most of the sex scenes are people who aren't the MC fucking LIs or future LIs, then while it may be "technically not NTR", it won't appeal to anyone who doesn't like NTR. That's what most people here are saying, though they're conflating it with their own definitions of NTR.

That said, devs: there is no point in being so aggressive about the "avoidable" label, nor do I see how you intend the game to appeal to anyone who doesn't like being cucked. It is a fact that there is unavoidable sex and imagery directly depicting LIs fucking other people, and constantly harping over the edges of the technical definitions of NTR just looks bad on everyone: you just as much as the people complaining about it.

People complaining: If the devs want to make a game where the LIs are all sluts who inhale every cock in sight other than the MC's until finally giving him a pity fuck, so be it. Ignore and avoid if that isn't your thing, and use the wisdom you have learned from how they handled this game and its reaction to choose whether to take their word about future projects or not.

Edited to add addendum: Making a separate game couched this way from the beginning, and not using the previous harem game as a springboard, would have avoided a lot of grief for everyone.

it isn't most the harem rote has more the OS's gf is the only one not avoidable the mom fucking her bf is people have the choice to see those or not I understand some people see that differently it's fine we've just been attacked bu trolls for years saying we are liars and ruining our games we had enough so we are being aggressive because they made us that way I know it isn't good and we apologize